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• #102
Agree, agree! I hate clips and straps with a passion.
I bet you don't like downtube shifters either. Pah, the youth of today.
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• #103
Personally I love clips.
Nothing else to add.
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• #104
there are people who like downtube shifters?
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• #105
I bet you don't like downtube shifters either. Pah, the youth of today.
I'm "meh" on downtube shifters. Given the choice I'll certainly have lovely Campag ergos, but downtube is OK. Clips and straps irritate the piss out of me though. I suppose I'd better get used to them if I'm ever to do L'Eroica, but I shall breat a sigh of relief when I'm back to ATACs or Deltas.
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• #106
there are people who like downtube shifters?
In over 40 years, any bike that I have owned with more than 4 gears has had downtube shifters, (I've sort of got used to them being there by now).
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• #107
but would you choose them over levers?
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• #108
When I first rode fixed I could never get the left pedal on, to the Point where I scraped through about three clips and decided to stop replacing them and just rode everywhere with a right clip. If it's your back foot (when skidding) which you can't get in then it doesn't really matter if there no foot retention...
[pause to await flaming.... Then realises I'll need to post first]
Anyway, went over to clipless pedals and then got a second bike with clips for some reason this time I managed to put the clips on fine and to this day almost never have problems with clips...
True [*] story
- and very dull... Sorry.
Spds are easier but clips aren't sooo bad... Downtube shifters are shit though.
- and very dull... Sorry.
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• #109
It's the type right? They're all slightly different in how they swing / little levers, stiffness of straps etc. It took me a day or two to get used to my new ones. I reckon the way forward it to set the straps super loose to begin with to give a big cage to aim at, then tighten them later once you have the knack.
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• #110
Downtube shifters are shit though.
Sorry, what are they?
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• #111
In over 40 years, any bike that I have owned with more than 4 gears has had downtube shifters, (I've sort of got used to them being there by now).
bar ends are better
Hides.
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• #112
Tried them briefly in the 70s. Went back to DT.
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• #113
I'm not fussed with using downtube shifters. I also have no problems with clips/straps.
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• #114
practise and as weird as it sounds don't look down, feel them. Also your type of shoe helps, the size of clip helps, how tight they are and the type of pedal. I have vintage campag pedals and my feet never went in, i would lean against a lamp post to tighten them and then not take my feet out. I have spds but got sick of carrying another pair of shoes and walk like a nonce in cylcing shoes.
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• #115
Sorry, what are they?
There shite. Im preety shur teh menning si ovius wit or witoot de liddle dowt.
Suwt oop oar ill rite evieting like dis fukf aaaaaas
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• #116
^^ quite late isn't it. ^^
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• #117
Wait a sec, he was being a grammer Nazi right?
Sorry I'm dyslexic and if it's not an erant apostrophe I don't know what's wrong?
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• #118
Know yourself...
Know thyself.
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• #119
Merge thyself..
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• #120
I have spds but got sick of carrying another pair of shoes and walk like a nonce in cylcing shoes.
MTB shoes aren't exactly a terrible imposition unless you have to wear a suit or something. I spent a happy afternoon playing football with my little bruvs in my MTB boots on Sunday and concluded that they're actually better for it than my usual Alt Bergs.
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• #121
There shite. Im preety shur teh menning si ovius wit or witoot de liddle dowt.
Suwt oop oar ill rite evieting like dis fukf aaaaaas
You do that by all means. I won't be seeing it...
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• #122
i used to do it, but it's a pain if you don't wear the same shoes, had my feet stuck once at traffic lights next to a bus in the schools out time, much to many kids amusement, so.......went clipless
I know this is a super-old quote, but hey, what's the point of merging threads otherwise.
So the reason for not using clips and straps is that they don't work if you wear different kinds of shoes.
Whereas clipless pedals...
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• #123
Whereas clipless pedals...
Work on any shoe with a two-bolt fixing that you've been arsed to screw the right cleats into, with no faffing about adjusting every time you change shoes. Your point, caller? ;-)
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• #124
Work on any shoe with a two-bolt fixing that you've been arsed to screw the right cleats into, with no faffing about adjusting every time you change shoes. Your point, caller? ;-)
I think that he means any shoe. Not cycling shoes for which one has to buy cleats. Even less 'faffing about'...
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• #125
I think that he means any shoe. Not cycling shoes for which one has to buy cleats. Even less 'faffing about'...
Except that you end up having to readjust the straps for each shoe, IME.
Know yourself...