Stolen bikes

I know its a long shot but...
A mate had his charge plug pinched last night, 6pm on Barnsbury rd, N1

All off the peg stuff apart from black bar tape instead of the standard brown, oh and missing one rear spoke, credit to anyone who would notice that.

Gonna do the Brick Lane rounds, but if anyone notices any scallys in the area in the meantime it would be greatly appreaciated.
Cheers

Bahahaha fucktard (BLB BJ seller)

http://www.lfgss.com/picture.php?albumid=927&pictureid=6920

Hackney Wick.....

Stolen in the last 30 minutes the 1972 golden motobecane, rare stronglight 57 cranks, lyotard quill pedals, ultegra on open pros c/w dt spokes, simplex derailleurs (golden)front and (silver)rear, golden anodised simplex commanders/shifters, rare golden adonised Mavic bars, stem and bar ends, mafac centre pulls and levers, dodgy seat pin, orginal suede saddle. more photos here in flickr set...http://www.flickr.com/photos/63293032@N00/sets/72157623458754373/

no lock was in corridor has been safe for fucking weeks and some muppet has just left the fucking door wide open...

sick as a pig.

Can people keep there eyes peeled around the wick though I would have thought it will end up around dalston, clapton as it would be stupid to get rid of it around the immediate vicinity, maybe bow?

I will go to brick lane on sunday, though I don't think it will be sold there... I think it will just float around for a while.

it's very distinctive because of the crank and has the original french cycling club sticker on the head tube....It hasn't turned a screw in 20 years so I think it will remain as a whole, thats why I hadn't really done anything to it, it has been steeped in easing oil for the last 6 months week after week it was starting to free up as well!!!

sort of gutted and almost resigned as I have so many other bikes at the minute and don't ride it regularly, though my mate that has been borrowing it regularly over the last 6 months had fell in love and was in the process of buying it. wankers.
the fucking wheels I had just dibsed were for this, i wanted to swap the ultegras out......mirroring you twice ed...have wheels and no bike...meh.

Where in the Wick was that from? I'll keep my eyes peeled round here for you

Anyone lost a BLB BJ recently? Seems like a dodgy one, though of course I may be wrong.

http://www.gumtree.com/london/45/55201645.html

Frame is inlaid green and the rims are inlaid white. Eh?

It has a 52inch frame! Maybe someome should forward this link to MaxCrowe. Also the green decals turn red when the frame is stripped. Damned clever those Bob Jacksons.

52 inches is too small for maxcrowe.

52 inches is too small for Katie Price aka Jordan.

fixied ;p

52 inches is too small for maxcrowe.

Yep

:)

Where in the Wick was that from? I'll keep my eyes peeled round here for you

Hey tim it was 92, we have been really really on it lately with regard to the doors, so the corridors have now become exclusive to us and not open to all and sundry. It used to be so on top it was ridiculous, you couldn't not be ultravigilant, we had the lead stolen out of the toilets...(though that may have been a resident....;/...;D...who knows?)
Anyway the last 6 months have been really good, nothing has gone missing. and then last week someone stole a nice 3x3 roccoco stylee mirror out of the bathroom, and then the door has been left open...maybe 1-2 hours in 6 months and the bike goes missing...which I know is just bad luck...however, that means whoever was doing the random rounds, just to see if it's open has started again, maybe watch out round olso house and near main yard?...
it's annoying 'cause I was just going to start doing it up for my mate, it was really original (apart from the wheels) and was nice to ride. It just need polishing and greasing.

whats more annyoing is that we are going to have to start bolting everything down again and lock our doors, and hide all the useful stuff we hoard in the corridors.

Why are so many bikes being stolen? We all know how to sucurely lock the bike, what locks (yes, plural) are needed and how to glue ball bearing or use locking bolts. Reading this thread makes me sad for your loss and angry at the lax security. You wouldn't leave your car unlocked, your front door open or have money sticking out of a back pocket. If you love your bike, show it. Bikes are people too.

To be honest, most cyclists I know who don't read this forum have little to no idea about locks. People think I'm nuts to have spent £90 on locks and when I start talking about it they just kind of go quiet as if I'm a rambling idiot. Granted, the people I'm talking about don't have flashy fixie-blingers with £50 saddles, but it seems a lot of people (including me a couple of years ago) start riding fixed (or any flashy bike) without knowing they're sitting on a thief's dream labelled "steal me". Also if you look at a lock section in a bike shop you're presented with a wall of 'reassuring' security information not valid for London's famous This Is London.

It's your property. Common sense dictates you look after it especially if it is valuable. You wouldn't leave your bag open on a train. Why would you think someone wouldn't steal your bike? I take your point about a confusing and mis-labled wall of locks and there definately shouldn't be any £10 locks on sale. I always carry 2 locks, even though I have never needed to use them. Yes it's weighty, but there is a minimum amount of kit you need to carry and your locks are just part of it. I know plenty of cyclists who leave their expensive bikes outside a shop for a few minutes and have the attitude that no one will steal my bike. The theiving scum will steal the hole from your polo if you give them a chance.
A determined thief will always win, but it's not hard to make them pick an easier option.

Hey tim it was 92, we have been really really on it lately with regard to the doors, so the corridors have now become exclusive to us and not open to all and sundry. It used to be so on top it was ridiculous, you couldn't not be ultravigilant, we had the lead stolen out of the toilets...(though that may have been a resident....;/...;D...who knows?)
Anyway the last 6 months have been really good, nothing has gone missing. and then last week someone stole a nice 3x3 roccoco stylee mirror out of the bathroom, and then the door has been left open...maybe 1-2 hours in 6 months and the bike goes missing...which I know is just bad luck...however, that means whoever was doing the random rounds, just to see if it's open has started again, maybe watch out round olso house and near main yard?...
it's annoying 'cause I was just going to start doing it up for my mate, it was really original (apart from the wheels) and was nice to ride. It just need polishing and greasing.

whats more annyoing is that we are going to have to start bolting everything down again and lock our doors, and hide all the useful stuff we hoard in the corridors.

That really sucks man, always gutting to have anything nicked.
To be honest though, that place never seems all that secure, seems there's a few too many trustafarians there so when stuff does get nicked it's not really surprising. Maybe that's just me being cynical, but places like that I would never leave any of my shit in sight.

But crimsonape, people really do think that a £30 cable lock is good enough. And it might be OK for the kind of bikes the people I'm referring to are riding, but then they might upgrade to a highly nickable bike (from a shop, having never read lfgss) and carry on using the same lock. If they're lucky they'll go a few months without theft and all will seem OK.
A lot of people (again, like me) have moved from somewhere where it's OK to use a shit lock. I remember being pretty shocked/gutted that the done thing here was to spend ~£100 on locks but it sunk in and I gradually improved my set-up as and when I could afford.
So yeah.. I agree everyone should do the same, but if they don't know it in the first place it's a bit unfair to judge, and totally untrue that "we all know how to sucurely lock the bike, what locks (yes, plural) are needed and how to glue ball bearing or use locking bolts".

Been reading this thread lately with interest... and while I agree it's everyone's responsibility to look after their things (lock them well, etc.), it starts to get a bit ridiculous. Is it also every woman's responsibility to wear full-body armour because if you leave anything exposed, some guy will come along and rape you? If car theft were as rampant as bike theft, you could be sure the police/gov't would be doing something to stop it. We should all have heavy bars on non-opening windows on our houses too, because lord knows just a splinter of daylight shining through is the go-ahead for a thief with his pocket dremel to cut through the hinges.

Sounds pretty ridiculous, doesn't it? Yet here we are talking about bicycles in the same way, blaming the victim if he/she doesn't lock the bike securely enough with £££ worth of NY locks. In a country with an obscene number of CCTV cameras, it strikes me as pretty pathetic that bike theft (and resale a la Brick Lane market) is so rampant.

Not sure what can be done about it, just felt like ranting a bit... it's a loser's game really, owning a nice bike.

when thousands of these get nicked the goverment might finally realise its time to do something about the thieves.

in paris thousands got stolen or trashed so surely the problem will be worse in london....

@hanged -up - Before joining this site I have never owned a lock. I have secure parking at work and a garage at home. I now have a ground anchor in my garage and carry 2 locks. I thought I didn't need a lock before reading the stories on here. Familiarising yourself with all aspects of your chosen hobby / job / means of transport should be your top priority. It's even more important than how deep your V's are. Not every cyclist has joined a helpful site like this so perhaps I was wrong about everyone knowing how to lock their bike safey. If you've joined this site after 8th March 2009 http://www.lfgss.com/thread17938.html you don''t really have any excuse for using a cable lock from halfords.

@smaryka - The majority of thefts are oppertunistic. At what point does the victim take some responsibility for their choice of bike, location and locking technique? Before someone jumps on the rape victim asking for it angle, that's not where I'm going. Leave you property in a dark, dodgy area and what do you expect? This isn't eutopia we live in. I know when we start off riding around London security isn't at the forefront of our minds but is that really a valid excuse after 1 visit?

This thread alone has 3,414 posts on the subject so far. I haven't tallied up the actual number of thefts, but it does seem that a considerable number could have been avoided. There are even a few posts about how lucky someone was to have not had their bike nicked.
Don't leave your property unattended with an unsuitable lock in a dodgy area. It's not a secret that theives like to steal and London has a lot of deprived areas where crime is as popular as signing on. If your item is expensive, looks expensive or is poorly secured, then it's fair game to someone.
Go into any bike shop and ask or look on line and you will find a plethera of useful information on the subject of cycle security. Searching this site will give you everything you ever need to know about cycling and quite a few pie suggestions. If your mum didn't make wake you up for school today, you should take responsibility if you make a mistake. I'm not blaming anyone for having their bike stolen, but is it worth a thief's time cutting through your expensive locks and ignoring an easier target?

Next time you're in a bike shop when someone is buying a new bike, listen if the sales person suggests a lock. I find it's hit and miss. I suppose they have an interest in a bigger sale, but also in the replacement bike sale. I have never been asked about buying a lock.

I suppose the issue of the stolen bike (/rape, if you like inflammatory analogies) is that while the crime is entirely the perpetrator's fault, there may be steps that the victim could have taken to avoid giving the choice to the perpetrator.

Obviously the victim wouldn't have to take those steps at all in a perfect world, because all potential criminals would make the right choice. Equally obviously, we don't live in that world.

For the individual, it becomes a balancing act between the benefit of reducing risk and the inconvenience of security. In London more risk needs to be reduced by society (ie the pigs and the criminal justice system) because individual cyclists have to bear too much of the burden for the security of their possessions.

When I say "bear too much of a burden", I'm talking literally about the weight of a fag mini-D.

@hanged -up - Before joining this site I have never owned a lock. I have secure parking at work and a garage at home. I now have a ground anchor in my garage and carry 2 locks. I thought I didn't need a lock before reading the stories on here. Familiarising yourself with all aspects of your chosen hobby / job / means of transport should be your top priority. It's even more important than how deep your V's are. Not every cyclist has joined a helpful site like this so perhaps I was wrong about everyone knowing how to lock their bike safey. If you've joined this site after 8th March 2009 http://www.lfgss.com/thread17938.html you don''t really have any excuse for using a cable lock from halfords.

@smaryka - The majority of thefts are oppertunistic. At what point does the victim take some responsibility for their choice of bike, location and locking technique? Before someone jumps on the rape victim asking for it angle, that's not where I'm going. Leave you property in a dark, dodgy area and what do you expect? This isn't eutopia we live in. I know when we start off riding around London security isn't at the forefront of our minds but is that really a valid excuse after 1 visit?

This thread alone has 3,414 posts on the subject so far. I haven't tallied up the actual number of thefts, but it does seem that a considerable number could have been avoided. There are even a few posts about how lucky someone was to have not had their bike nicked.
Don't leave your property unattended with an unsuitable lock in a dodgy area. It's not a secret that theives like to steal and London has a lot of deprived areas where crime is as popular as signing on. If your item is expensive, looks expensive or is poorly secured, then it's fair game to someone.
Go into any bike shop and ask or look on line and you will find a plethera of useful information on the subject of cycle security. Searching this site will give you everything you ever need to know about cycling and quite a few pie suggestions. If your mum didn't make wake you up for school today, you should take responsibility if you make a mistake. I'm not blaming anyone for having their bike stolen, but is it worth a thief's time cutting through your expensive locks and ignoring an easier target?

Next time you're in a bike shop when someone is buying a new bike, listen if the sales person suggests a lock. I find it's hit and miss. I suppose they have an interest in a bigger sale, but also in the replacement bike sale. I have never been asked about buying a lock.

Even with suitable lock(s) bikes are still being stolen sometimes with cutting gear stolen from fire stations, the rating on your lock is more like how long it can withstand attack before failure ..I would not trust any lock to secure my bike out of sight, and would invest in a disk lock alarm.

@Seeds - Wasn't meant to be inflamitory. With regard to the burden of responsibility for your own posessions, then yes, it is a heavy one. Velcro'd to the frame, secured to a pannier or in your bag. It's your bike. Look after it. Why should anyone else be responsible for your property? Obviously civic duty compells us to be vigilliant, the authorities are there to prevent and chastise the guilty, but the owness is on the owner to make their property less easy to make off with.

@ Hael - +100

That really sucks man, always gutting to have anything nicked.
To be honest though, that place never seems all that secure,** seems there's a few too many trustafarians there so when stuff does get nicked it's not really surprising.** Maybe that's just me being cynical, but places like that I would never leave any of my shit in sight.

Without getting into a who is more valid than whom type tit for tat bullshit squabble....Maybe that is you being ill informed, 92 has the lowest count of 'rich' in the area? and the highest count of people that are 'artists' ? like recognised hang on the wall artists? before all the wannabees moved in there had always been 92...and a few others at the peanut factory...
We have been dug out since before the 'art tourist gold rush' that has occured over the last 4 years...? sounds like you are a little concerned people might think you are trusta so you bring that up first?
this place was always target number one for theft as it was the only place inhabited?...there was no one else to steal from so thay always came here first.

whatever.....this was about bike theft and not who was more eligible to get ripped of because of their social strata?

The scallys have returned to our work car park near St Katharines dock, one of my colleagues chased them off earlier - found them standing in our car park on a mobile phone pointing at various bikes in the racks.

My point is that you've got the benefit from reduced risk on the one hand, and the inconvenience of reducing it on the other. In London, the risk of bike theft is too high to begin with, so you have to swallow quite a lot of inconvenience (heavy locks, constant vigilance) before it starts becoming useless paranoia.

It's your bike. Look after it. Why should anyone else be responsible for your property? ... the owness is on the owner to make their property less easy to make off with

I suppose your point of view depends on whether or not you believe that "society" exists, rather than simply lots of individuals looking out for themselves.

If you're a libertarian, then try looking at it this way: bike theft in London is a nice example of what happens in the second case and why it's better for everyone if it's dealt with by the community (better policing) rather than by individuals (everyone has to carry massive locks etc).

My housemate had his bike locked up with two cheap cable locks and lost his keys.
I cut the bikes free with a pair of pliers. I couldnt believe it. Granted I had to try pretty bloody hard but it took under 2 mins to snip them both.

He now uses a massive D lock.

I don't see that this needs a viewpoint. I wasn't making reference to the collapse of society or anything deep. I own this and I don't want anyone else taking it. The police can't be everywhere. Thieves can be in more places. Locks are necessary. It's just being practical. Inconvenient would be having to attach a dog to my bike when I left it alone.