Stolen bikes

what the fuck?? I do apologise coming off quite rude, but fucking hell you paid less than £20 for two lock to protect your £500 bike.
It going to happen if you did that, those lock are easy to cut with domestic tools, you should've invested in a much better lock, usually cost a lots more, but you're paying for security;

if you think £30 is a lots of money for a lock, that's nothing compared to the cost of the bike itself, next time mate, go for an Abus or Kryponite lock (recommendation are the Kryponite Evolution Mini, NYC Fahgettiabout, and Abus Granit).

None of this would've happen had you not chosen to buy those cheap lock, they're only useful in other country such as France to just stop the bike from getting borrowed by a drunk bloke who think it would be fun to ride a bike when under the influence, but in London with cycling on the rise, theft and criminal are looking for an profitable way to steal and sell bike.

Sorry for your lost mate, but think you should spend bit more on locks next time. At least 10% of the bike value, but better more.

TBH, I would probably have spent more on protecting my bike. A £5 lock ain't gonna cut it*

You live and learn I suppose.

*Poor phrase to use...

ed has a point, its advised that you spend like atleast 10% of the cost of your bike on a lock.
If the security of your bike corresponds its value a bike thief will more likely go for a bike which costs the same but has less security. I feel for you though

Ive had a few bikes stolen from me, and once i had one of those cable locks which only litteraly take 5 seconds to cut through (ive tested that myself). So i wouldnt rely on those things at all.

go for d locks, they're not that expensive but strong as fuck

In Japan they actually do use those cheap lock just to keep the bike there, not for security at all, since bike theft there are quite low, but the price you pay for that sense of security is the law in Japan are quite different to the British jusitice system, if you're happen to be innocent, you can't appeal or go to court etc. they'd just arrest you and send you to prison.

the moral is the more d locks the better

Hahaha, you guys right!! I do learn a lot from this expensive course. But I not sure I've got enough money to afford another good bike. I save money to achieve my dream, and people break it. I will definitely buy this next time. BTW, has anyone's Specilized Allez got nicked? I met an old man who tried to sell this bike to me at 150, and kept saying he is a traveler while couples of ganster talk to he like good friends...

Why does the forum demand to know how the bike is locked up, surely the point of this thread is to alert people to a bike that has been stolen and show people interested in bikes what to keep an eye out for?

Continually telling people to get a Krypotonite after they've already had their bikes stolen is a bit of 'stating the obvious' / 'I told you so' / 'look how clever I am to still have my bike', right or wrong? I may just be ranting but if I'd had mine teefed I'd just want everyone to see the post, say sorry (if they felt the urge) and keep their eyes peeled.

Further more, money is far better spent on insurance than heavy, cumbersome and impracticle locks.

so that people can learn from others mistakes and see how the theives are operating.

Further more, money is far better spent on insurance than heavy, cumbersome and impracticle locks.

its people like you that make insurance premiums so high.

Further more, money is far better spent on insurance than heavy, cumbersome and impracticle locks.

What total and utter shite. Insurance is basically a con, especially for bikes. You'd be better off saving the money you'd pay in insurance premiums so if you're bike is nicked you've some money to buy a new one.

Two decent locks will deter all but the most determind thief.

You'd be better off saving the money you'd pay in insurance premiums so if you're bike is nicked you've some money to buy a new one.

Self insurance - I tried to do the sums on this and I'm not sure that they work out. I reckoned that you'd need to go for at least 5 years with no thefts for it to work. So far I'm at three years with no thefts so maybe there's something in it.

Personally, a decent lock + decent insurance = peace of mind.

I stick £25 a month into a savings account. Haven't needed it yet but it would lessen the blow of having a bike nicked. My bikes are covered by our contents insurance policy but the excess is £500 so my commuting bike (a Bianchi Pista) isn't covered.

Why does the forum demand to know how the bike is locked up, surely the point of this thread is to alert people to a bike that has been stolen and show people interested in bikes what to keep an eye out for?

To me the main point is to know which locks are mostly getting cut through, and what's the most common reason for theft that i should watch out for in the future.

True, this doesn't help anymore the poor sod who lost his bike, but might help others

Can I just ask the Brick Lane Watchers out there...

Who are the guys with the White Transit, taking photos of bikes and writing stuff down and whatnot just at the bit where the road is blocked by the East London Line works at the moment?

I saw them yesterday when walking with my boy. They had a half decent MTB/DH bike and were taking pics and looking for frame numbers Etc. Are these the inspector dudes we've heard about? They weren't wearing any uniform or IDs or anything.

Why does the forum demand to know how the bike is locked up, surely the point of this thread is to alert people to a bike that has been stolen and show people interested in bikes what to keep an eye out for?

Continually telling people to get a Krypotonite after they've already had their bikes stolen is a bit of 'stating the obvious' / 'I told you so' / 'look how clever I am to still have my bike', right or wrong? I may just be ranting but if I'd had mine teefed I'd just want everyone to see the post, say sorry (if they felt the urge) and keep their eyes peeled.

For instance, says there's a number of people who got their bike stolen in a specific place, and listing what kind of lock they used, had they used the decent lock (Kryponite etc.), then we'd be worried about locking our bike in that area, beside learning from their mistake and getting advice on what they should do once they get a new bike from the insurance company.

if it a shit lock/poorly locked bike, then we're safe in the knowledge that with decent lock and it's lock properly, the chance of it getting stolen is minimal.

Continually telling people to get a Krypotonite after they've already had their bikes stolen is a bit of 'stating the obvious' / 'I told you so' / 'look how clever I am to still have my bike', right or wrong? I may just be ranting but if I'd had mine teefed I'd just want everyone to see the post, say sorry (if they felt the urge) and keep their eyes peeled.

To be fair, they did lock their bike poorly and did chosen the cheapest lock, it's either let them do it again or tell them straight to their face.
Most of the time it tend to be the owner's fault of how they lock it and what lock they use, I don't think we're being pompous at all, just showing them the right course of action.

Can I just ask the Brick Lane Watchers out there...

Who are the guys with the White Transit, taking photos of bikes and writing stuff down and whatnot just at the bit where the road is blocked by the East London Line works at the moment?

I saw them yesterday when walking with my boy. They had a half decent MTB/DH bike and were taking pics and looking for frame numbers Etc. Are these the inspector dudes we've heard about? They weren't wearing any uniform or IDs or anything.

I don't like the sound of that. Not that I've ever locked my bike up in that area.

I had a walk around my block yesterday, found a rucksack tucked behind a ladder that had been left lent against a fence panel.

This is on private (albeit communal) property, so I thought I'd have a look in the bag, as I am a nosey bugger.

One cheap grey sweatshirt, one large pair of boltcutters.

I stupidly locked up my Klein outside the flat I lived in 3 years ago, with 3 cheap locks. It was "safe" for 1 week, then it was gone.

I can only buy a very thief-resisitant lock now. I learned my lesson. Others will learn the hard way also.

Telling them to f*cking sharpen up, is not necessarily a bad thing.

Anyone missing a Condor Pista?

http://www.gumtree.com/london/74/33289874.html

Can I just ask the Brick Lane Watchers out there...

Who are the guys with the White Transit, taking photos of bikes and writing stuff down and whatnot just at the bit where the road is blocked by the East London Line works at the moment?

I saw them yesterday when walking with my boy. They had a half decent MTB/DH bike and were taking pics and looking for frame numbers Etc. Are these the inspector dudes we've heard about? They weren't wearing any uniform or IDs or anything.

get your camera phone out, take a snap of them all and the van reg. if they get funny, you know there is something dodgy going on, and can alert someone.

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i can break these with just by standing on them. Theyre rubbish ! no wonder your bike got stolen.

Good idea for anyone is to buy at least a D-lock of good quality i.e. £30 + (more you spend the better)

Edscoble advising people to by Kryptonite locks is absolutely spot on. No one can argue with his advice cos he is correct.

Chains Wires or anything else are shit.

Only d locks are any good.

Only d locks are any good.

debatable

use two locks, D and a chain.

debatable

use two locks, D and a chain.

Word. Plenty of online shops are doing the Mini-Evolution Kryptonite for £25 at the moment. There's no excuse.

debatable

use two locks, D and a chain.

chains (goo wuality) - wirecuters (5 sec)
wire(good quality) - wirecutters (5 sec)
d lock (good quality) - angle grinder (at least 5-10 mins, plus a lot of obvious noise)

i dont need to say any more.

chains (goo wuality) - wirecuters (5 sec)
wire(good quality) - wirecutters (5 sec)
d lock (good quality) - angle grinder (at least 5-10 mins, plus a lot of obvious noise)

i dont need to say any more.

its not the material, it's the technique.

chains allow for locking to more varied objects, if you keep your chain tight and off the floor, you won't get through it in 5 seconds with wire cutters. you need bolt cutters, and the leverage of the floor and body weight to get through. take those fabric sleeves off your chain when you buy it, and chain the bike up as tight as possible.