NJS: What's the point?

but njs stuff is bought by those with weak minds though, you have to admit

no need to be racist!

Fuck me. A 3 year old thread.

A youngster.

Note: quality of response used to be much higher than the typical responses nowadays.

SIMPLE - your paying for quality, you wanna buy a tv at tesco by their own brand or invest a bit more in a company that has a reputation worldwide like sony! njs have been around donkeys years and their quality and standard shine through all these years. upto you, technika or sony!!!!!!

Erm, no you're not. Whilst you can guarantee it will be no worse than any other NJS stamped thing, you can also guarantee it will be no better.

You're paying for consistency (level playing field) and to protect Japanese manufacturers.

In many cases the same money will buy you much better product elsewhere (i.e. Phil Wood, Chris King, Royce, etc for components).

Isnt NJS just a standard allowing kit to be used for Keirin? And ( i may be talking out my ass) isnt Keirin in Japan still raced on relitively antiquated machines tech wise?

Note: quality of response used to be much higher than the typical responses nowadays.

Yep. But what do you expect, it's more chatty like a messageboard now. People using posts like instant messages. Makes for a lot more crap to sift through but forums do grow.

yep

In many cases the same money will buy you much better product elsewhere (i.e. Phil Wood, Chris King, Royce, etc for components).

This is true. But they're all modern parts. If you're wanting to build a bike that 'looks' and feels vintage, NJS components are a nice way to get that with brand new parts.

I've bit on the njs bate and, though people say it's a waste or there's better out there, I don't really care. The build quality is good, the performance is acceptable, and the aesthetic is lovely. If you like it, you like it. It's the same as some people preferring an 80s Italian steel frame with Super Record over a Cervélo with Di2. Obviously one is better on the road (and obviously modern kit is better on the track) but where performance isn't really an issue, you can choose what you want.

Haha!

This is true. But they're all modern parts. If you're wanting to build a bike that 'looks' and feels vintage, NJS components are a nice way to get that with brand new parts.

It's true, this NJS Shimano hub looks old:

Whereas these modern Royce hubs would ruin a vintage look:

NJS isn't about look. It's about levelling a playing field so betting can be against the riders over the bikes, and to help protect an industry.

I'll swallow a line saying "guaranteed base level of quality", but not one saying that you buy NJS for a vintage look and feel.

I think it depends on the component.

If you wanted a "vintage look" you'd get an NJS Tange headset as opposed to a Chris King.

I also think I'm missing the point, but that's fine.

one of many...

Who cares... :-)

Saturday Night Fever is on TV. John Travolta is a badass.

Who cares... :-)

Saturday Night Fever is on TV. John Travolta is a badass.

His moves are NJS.

Hell yeah they fuckin are.

NJS =

Yo rusty, Nitto make an NJS stem and a non-NJS stem and they both look as vintage as each other LITERALLYDON'TCAREWHYAMISTILLTYPING?????

Yo rusty, Nitto make an NJS stem and a non-NJS stem and they both look as vintage as each other LITERALLYDON'TCAREWHYAMISTILLTYPING?????

That's only relevant if you're riding them in races where you need NJS parts. The part is the same. The fact that there's a non-NJS version just means that they made different ones for road use (26mm clamp diameter).

Yeah but you said that the part is aesthetically desirable because it was NJS approved.

I'm the one saying the parts look the same.

Does a car become more desirable because it was MOT approved?

Does a car become more desirable because it was MOT approved?

Odd comparison. The MOT is just saying the car is roadworthy, not whether is has genuine parts or pattern parts. Pattern parts will get you through the MOT just as well as genuine.

like racing old bikes in japan horesracing is primarily a betting vehicle rather than a sport.
the british horseracing authority certify whips for racing use so that no non standard whips cannot be used and therefore jockeys don't have an unfair advantage.

it's all about rockin wid da BHA whip yo!

Do you think there is an inflated market amongst the hipper elements of the horseriding community in Japan for BHA approved whips?