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• #37727
Why?
And surely Rydon you mean the ultimate 'downhill' mountain bike in your opinion?
ha obviously :P
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• #37728
Because of the effect of gravity on all of the "stuff" in it.
It's aluminium and carbon fibre...mostly hollow....and cost a frigging fortune.
As far as downhill bikes go it was pretty damn light if memory serves me correct. -
• #37729
Almost...
Richard Cunningham already owned Mantis and made the elevated stay frames as custom jobs.
He designed frames for Nishiki to mass produce.
Both used bolted on steel rear ends and aluminium fronts in an attempt to use the best properties of both materials.
Something which Gary Fisher also did on the CR7.I loved the look of the old Mantises, with the monocoque (or perhaps half and half, like the old Mountain Cycles) front end. What was the name of the full suspension one he did - Pro Floater or something?
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• #37730
yeah, pro floater. Remember seeing one at a race when they'd just appeared...was very nice.
Well...for the time. :]
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• #37731
Cunningham was another guy not afraid to try new things. :]
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• #37732
the ultimate mountain bike in my opinion!
Epic repost.
And for all the millions Honda spent on it, it turns out some blokes in Halifax can put together a simple single pivot frame that works just as well.
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• #37733
Epic repost.
And for all the millions Honda spent on it, it turns out some blokes in Halifax can put together a simple single pivot frame that works just as well.
It was never about that though was it...it was always the 'gearbox' that was the centre of attention.
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• #37734
Those cranks are porn. I have those cranks.
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• #37735
the ultimate mountain bike in my opinion!
Forgot I logged on to www.greatbigwannabemotorbikers.com/ultimatebenders... thanks for reminding me.
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• #37736
white tyres yeah but still.
It could have risers and mudguards and it would still beat the last few pages... c'mon Nuknow...
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• #37737
Yeah, cos only old track bikes can be porn.
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• #37738
As far as downhill bikes go it was pretty damn light if memory serves me correct.
Which does seem to be a highly relative achievement of questionable virtue.
And dog ugly.
Interesting technology, but Ultimate anything? Naaaaah.
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• #37739
Considering the top few places in downhill races are separated by fractions of a second, any potential advantage is important...just like in time trials.
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• #37740
Does it help to be fucking fat in DH?
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• #37741
Which does seem to be a highly relative achievement of questionable virtue.
And dog ugly.
Interesting technology, but Ultimate anything? Naaaaah.
you sound like an ignorant arsehole! Well done.
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• #37742
Does it help to be fucking fat in DH?
Yeah...you get softer landings!
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• #37743
It was never about that though was it...it was always the 'gearbox' that was the centre of attention.
I know, but the G-Box was there to a: reduce unsprung mass and b: remove chain reaction from the suspension equation, and it turns out that those things are not important enough to overall performance to make the effort worthwhile.
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• #37744
Oh for god's sake stop waving your willy around. Next!
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• #37745
I know, but the G-Box was there to a: reduce unsprung mass and b: remove chain reaction from the suspension equation, and it turns out that those things are not important enough to overall performance to make the effort worthwhile.
Which i guess is why it was short lived.
Not that Honda ever wanted to produce them anyway.
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• #37746
white tyres yeah but still.
32 spokes radial = very shit
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• #37747
It's aluminium and carbon fibre...mostly hollow....and cost a frigging fortune.
That, and Honda made it. They know a thing or two about engineering.
Does it help to be fucking fat in DH?
No, heavy things don't fall faster than light things of the same size & shape.
Yeah, cos only old track bikes can be porn.
+1 (also sarcastic)
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• #37748
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I agree Brooklyn makes pornworthy bikes...that's why i've owned 5 over the years. :]Saw your old forks, from your famous tourer, with a crack round the bottle boss you had put in today. J looked a bit peed off, he had it in his back pack on his way to have looked at :[ Oh dear.
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• #37749
Oh dear, that's a shame. It was bound to happen eventually without the boss in there.
He was gonna get the boss put back in too...guess he never got round to it in time. -
• #37750
No, heavy things don't fall faster than light things of the same size & shape.
Roll down a hill next to a fat bloke and see if you still think that. Initial acceleration is the same, but pretty soon it becomes clear that fat blokes' aerodynamic cross section doesn't increase as fast as their mass, so they achieve a higher equilibrium velocity.
Because of the effect of gravity on all of the "stuff" in it.