Bike porn

No, it is just like riding in drops. Now where's that picture Ed made with the Fuji track placed over the low pro...

Agree, it would be like riding in the drops. The problem is you would be in the drop position for 100% of the time with no other options. Not sure how many people ride 100% of the time in the drops?

Not sure how many people ride 100% of the time in the drops?

People riding short distance time trials, before tri bars. These bikes were designed for that purpose, and work very well for it. Cammish used to ride a lo-pro up to at least 100mile distance. On the Gazelle, you can ride on the brake hoods too.

I do realise I have been talking shite for the last couple of days, and I don't know why, but I'm defintely not talking shite about the drop reference;

That thing is hideous. I'd rather have an original shopper, atleast it has proper racks.

and unnickable too, I want to able to leave the bike locked up for several days without worried, the Cannondale however gorgeous it is, defintely won't survived one whole day.

that white town bike is a nice find actually, didn't notice the rack is integrated until I took a second glance.

Can anyone explain/give me a link as to how that bike without a chain works?

Might be shaft drive:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaft_drive#Drive_shafts_in_Bicycles

Dibs on the Textima
Anyone the Fuji ?

Can anyone explain/give me a link as to how that bike without a chain works?

probably an enclosed belt drive; the shape of the drive enclosure would allow this (or even an enclosed chain), but seems unsuited to a shaft. At the outside, it would be feasible for the enclosure to house a worm drive, but that would be extraordinarily improbable.

http://bicycledesign.blogspot.com/2009/11/cannondale-dutchess-follow-up.html

I do realise I have been talking shite for the last couple of days, and I don't know why, but I'm defintely not talking shite about the drop reference;

sure. i've seen this a hundred times before. but still find it rather theorethical. FWIW wouldn't the steeper headtube angle and the shorter wheelbase make any difference at all? come on why would lo pro bikes catch on if you could just ride in the drops.
also. i was asking if you (ed or any other) have thorough knowledge to the matter from experience or just from photoshop experiments.
it's not that i don't find the above statement and constructed visual evidence useful and possibly very true:)

People riding short distance time trials, before tri bars. These bikes were designed for that purpose, and work very well for it. Cammish used to ride a lo-pro up to at least 100mile distance. On the Gazelle, you can ride on the brake hoods too.

Aware of it's intended use and that is not knocking about the streets on. Which is what I was getting at, how many riders ride in the drops 100% of the time on their typical rides.

Although you have pointed out that the hoods are an option which I hadn't thought about. So, as you were :-)

FWIW wouldn't the steeper headtube angle and the shorter wheelbase make any difference at all? come on why would lo pro bikes catch on if you could just ride in the drops.
also. i was asking if you (ed or any other) have thorough knowledge to the matter from experience or just from photoshop experiments.
it's not that i don't find the above statement and constructed visual evidence useful and possibly very true:)

Lo Pro's were hot about 20 years ago. Theories and practice have changed a bit since then.
People thought that there was some aerodynamic advantage. I haven't measured it, so I can't tell. Maybe it helped a bit.
Biggest advantage was that you were forced to stay in the best possible position. You could not move to a less aero position. So, always maximum aero benefit. That was the idea.
Next to that, especially for road team time trials and track team pursuits: with a lo pro you could sit approx 5 cm or even more closer to your front man. So, less air resistance.
So far the theory of those days.
Meanwhile the lo pro's are more or less gone, but we will not know exactly why.
Also/mainly thanks to UCI's ban for different wheel diameters (2 small wheels seems to be too inefficient)

I think the lo=pro are more or less gone due to the introduction of the tri-bar as mitre has mentioned as well as the advance in technology that enable us to figure out the best design for performance (wind tunnel for instance).

and lo-pros were banned, both wheels then had to be the same size. was this because they saw them as an advantage?

and lo-pros were banned, both wheels then had to be the same size. was this because they saw them as an advantage?

pure aesthetics i say

banning a form of bike because of aesthetics?

It's a bit off-topic, but this is still porn. Primarily from an engineering, rather than aesthetics point of view.

YouTube- www.grace.de

Is that a chub hub with halson inversions up front?

Phat.

I wanted those rims too, (Omega 19 I think they're called), found some, turn out all I can find are 36 holes, as I need 32 holes

I do look arround for 36hole since forever and find only 32...somethings wrong...

Know it's a repost but what bars are those?

more importantly, what rims are those?

more importantly, what rims are those?

De-stickered Mavic Ellipse wheels

that is a nice bob jackson. tighter geometry than normal by the looks of it. where in the world is that photo from?

S.E Asia, maybe Thailand..

De-stickered Mavic Ellipse wheels

hah, ellipse fo sho

cheers

S.E Asia, maybe Thailand..

I checked all the main S.E.Asian alphabets and didn't see anything which matched, although I'm sure we're in the right area. Been hoping somebody could come up with a definitive to relieve the frustration. Somebody print it out and take it up the Kingsland Rd, bound to be somebody there who knows for sure...

Sorry for being late on teh LoPro discussion, but I happily ride 40 miles most days on mine with bull bars and the stem down all the way, and I have no issues with discomfort whatsoever. It is the most perfect riding position of all the bikes I have ever owned. Mine is a 24" front wheel too.