Coffee Appreciation

so an espresso with a dash of inverse skim milk?

Espresso with a dash of chain oil. Bosh. Jobdone.

In other news: Climpson's Doi Chang through a Hario v60. Amazing.

I have to ask, what is a black macchiato?

I regularly buy a dry americano.

It's cheaper than the double espresso, even though it is a double espresso.

In other news: Climpson's Doi Chaang through a Hario v60. Amazing.

Been drinking that for a while now, it's a first Natural that I really like. Has something boozy to it.

it's impossible

The coffee equivalent of an inverse shim

Black food dye to the milk......

Mind blown gif

so an espresso with a dash of inverse skim milk?

That is baddddddddd milky punning.

Am still intrigued how the person who ordered it expected it to be made, or just got the wrong end of the cup.

^Regarding that black macchiato confusion:

I came across people from different countries meaning different things when they ask for it. Germans want to get a very milky latte, most of others want espresso with a drop of milk.
If I'm correct Macchiato means "stained", and it can be either espresso with small amout of milk, or other way round, milk with small amout of espresso.
My wild guess Black Macchiato would be Long Black/Americano with a drop of frothy stuff.

^Regarding that black macchiato confusion:

I came across people from different countries meaning different things when they ask for it. Germans want to get a very milky latte, most of others want espresso with a drop of milk.
If I'm correct Macchiato means "stained", and it can be either espresso with small amout of milk, or other way round, milk with small amout of espresso.
My wild guess Black Macchiato would be Long Black/Americano with a drop of frothy stuff.

Dash of foam on an espresso is a machiato IMO.

I'm confused....

^Regarding that black macchiato confusion:

I came across people from different countries meaning different things when they ask for it. Germans want to get a very milky latte, most of others want espresso with a drop of milk.
If I'm correct Macchiato means "stained", and it can be either espresso with small amout of milk, or other way round, milk with small amout of espresso.
My wild guess Black Macchiato would be Long Black/Americano with a drop of frothy stuff.

macchiato means "marked"
espresso macchiato = espresso with a dash of milk
latte macchiato = 8oz or so of milk with a dash of espresso

Yeah that happens when you travel, here in NL in any non specialty place you need to specify cafe macchiato (short) or latte macchiato (long). Australia is wierd for that too, on the west coast a flat white is like a weak latte (single shot, lots of steamed milk), whereas east coast is double shot with well textured milk (like in the UK). If you wanted the same drink on the west coast then you'd order a long mac, topped up.

Y Australia is wierd for that too, on the west coast a flat white is like a weak latte (single shot, lots of steamed milk), whereas east coast is double shot with well textured milk (like in the UK). If you wanted the same drink on the west coast then you'd order a long mac, topped up.

yet more examples of Perth being fuckin' backward

macchiato means "marked"
espresso macchiato = espresso with a dash of milk
latte macchiato = 8oz or so of milk with a dash of espresso
I've never understood the point of that dash of milk in a macchiato. Do many people ask for these, Sumo?

The only person I've ever known to order them was my friend's slightly pervy Italian dad.

I'm not suggesting this is the case for all macchiato drinkers of course.

Yeah that happens when you travel, here in NL in any non specialty place you need to specify cafe macchiato (short) or latte macchiato (long). Australia is wierd for that too, on the west coast a flat white is like a weak latte (single shot, lots of steamed milk), whereas east coast is double shot with well textured milk (like in the UK). If you wanted the same drink on the west coast then you'd order a long mac, topped up.

Hah! I ordered a flat white from Joe and the Juice this morning (I was in a hurry, whatevs) which turned out to be a bucket of slightly coffee flavoured milk.

I was thinking, as I walked to work regretting my purchase, that if I went back again a "Long macchiato" would probably get the result closest to what I was after, then dismissed the concept as beyond ridiculous.

Oddly 'long' just means a double shot (in WA by any rate), the idea being a double macchiato then 'topped up' with milk. the coffee menu didn't make much sense over there, but the cycling was top notch.

I've never understood the point of that dash of milk in a macchiato. Do many people ask for these, Sumo?

The only person I've ever known to order them was my friend's slightly pervy Italian dad.

I'm not suggesting this is the case for all macchiato drinkers of course.

yeah macchiato's are popular, they're great if you want to take the edge off a straight espresso.

Lots of the older gents at the caffe bar I go to order macchiatos - the "stained" by a bit of foam version. Maybe something to do with their system not being able to take a straight shot as they age?
Anyway, these Italians understand it to mean "stained".
The owner is Sicilian if that makes any difference.

Italians take it to mean stained, the marked comment is related to errors in translation such as staining your clothes which is better translated as marked.

Sciilians aren't really Italians...part of me often wonders how many Italians there actually are.

of course they're not, scilly, they're ukers.

We sell more macchiatos than cortardos, but latte is still the drink of choice.

The Coffee Trail is on iPlayer currently, giving some context to the robusto production in Vietnam.

Where can I find a conclusive list of what all these words mean? I want to find out what to call what I make at home.

No, not Nescafé

Mmmm, Jailbreak and Jabberwocky. It's good to have you back in the mornings.

Macchiatos annoy me. Enough milk to spoil a good espresso but not enough to bring any interesting flavours to the cup. Obviously has a place in traditional coffee, 'taking the edge off', but I don't think it translates well to speciality coffee. I kind of doubt there are any good modern roasters tasting their espresso roasts with a blob of foam.

Where can I find a conclusive list of what all these words mean? I want to find out what to call what I make at home.

It varies too much from country to country, cafe to cafe. I can't think of a single term that describes a particular drink universally. Even 'espresso' or 'latte'.
Describe what you make and we can all have fun naming it!

I think visual guides are great for this reason. I wonder if there would be a market for something like business cards, that you could keep in your wallet and use to show what you actually want?