Mystery Lo Pro

So I got this off Schnitter in Berlin in a small bundle, and am yet to find out what it is. I did kid myself thinking I'd put Sram force on it, but think a period geared build would be more realistic. Depending on if I can identify the builder then it might get resprayed, or failing that a strip and clear coat would be on the cards.

Turns out the guy who built the wheels vaguely recalls building it up, pretty cool he's still working at Kendell Cycles all these years later. He thinks it might be a Simoncini, but I'm not convinced having an English BB shell and Shimano track ends/fork ends

Anyway, I have a lo pro finally!

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Don't worry it's not going to have drops

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ahh damn/bless you. i really uhhmed and ahhhed about buying this. i wouldve made it a "cargo"bike with front rack, long nitto stem, moustaches and inappropiately fixed. i guess itll be better off in your hands.

I don't know, your plans sound a lot more exciting than what I've got in mind. The price was good and how can you not like that webbing, oh and the mono-stay. The only problem with building back into a tt bike is I'll have to get fit again :/

ah, Castleford, I'm from near there. It's a right shit hole.

We call it 'Cas Vegas'

Now that's one cool story bro.

a simo bike would be english threaded and they often used tange/ shimano bits for their frames, medici used those lugs a lot and they were sort of a precursor to the simo bikes so yea, maybe. they also did a lot of radical lopro type stuff, its just that simo finishing usually sucked major dong.

Ooooh that's all very interesting, will try and do some some investigative work and see if I can unearth anything. I just presumed all frame builders ordinarily used native bb threaded and components on their frames. I guess the frame is a one off custom for a specific rider, hence the "Orville 1" stamp, but it seems strange that a customer wouldn't get an English frame builder to make it.

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Been working a lot so haven't had much time to tinker, but thrown some parts on to just see if it's roughly the right size. In comparison to the road bike, it looks suitable. Even though it's Italian, I think the UFP-10 track ends and english bb qualify it for a Shimano group, so going to use 600 tricolour (6401), well that's the plan.

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Somebody find that Tester tick thing. Proper lo pro status achieved.

Crazy!!!!

I was chuffed about that too, wasn't entirely sure if it'd fit, but it seems worth while building it up at least. Thanks Fahrgestell.

Sram Force Idea sounds a lot better :P!

Erm...

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...and mounting it "aero"? on the other side so it clears the aerofairing?

and the brakehole alignes.. makes all the sense being as mental as it is..

Very cool frame. Would be even nicer with new paint.

...and mounting it "aero"? on the other side so it clears the aerofairing?

That was the first thing I tried, but it's designed to be mounted in the traditional way with a larger diameter hole on the underside for the mounting nut. And so with the caliper mounted underneath the nut doesn't fit though the top hole.

...but it does line up with the brake hole in the tt.. what about mounting a nutted caliper or a front caliper with a nut? i do think mounting it "aero" would look cool and make the cabling more elegant..

It does line up and personally I think it would look in keeping with the eccentricity of the frame, so not a problem there. I would like to know if the frame was designed for center pull brakes, or a specific caliper before bodging anything as keeping it original is always nice.

Spoke to Garry Proud of Kendell Cycles today and he thinks the frame was one of a few the shop bought from Ernie Clements in the 80's as he often sold Dutch and Italian frames to them. Still unsure of the frame's identity, but hoping the mystery will be solved.

Weinmann 500s were popular with testers back in the day (light and cheap, who needs brakes on a drag strip anyway) and the cable ran the other side. Right hand cable exit would also work with Dia Compe AGC300 or Modolo Kronos, the posh TT brakes of those times.

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Ah just the info I needed to know, thanks for the info (and the tick)!

Does this need an Ergostem?

Also, SRAM Force would look killer!

Don't reckon I'll go down the ergo stem route, they just seem too visually noisy for me. Was thinking a simple Cinelli stem, maybe the boring 1A. Yeah Force would be great, if I get quicker it could be a nice incentive to fit it who knows. I've come up with a short term solution to the rear caliper problem by fitting a front brake, which will work for now. I've been thinking about drilling the rear brake mount on the frame, which will allow a conventional recessed caliper bolt to be used. It would make it look cleaner and ultimately be more usable to 99% of calipers on the market.

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Not really picture worthy, but did the obvious thing and drilled the rear brake bridge. Used graduating drill bits covered in fairly liquid and worked a treat.