The day that Thatcher died

I'm not accepting that face plant, the post reads like this....

"and he was a personal friend of Castro - in fact, he was a pallbearer at his funeral"

... which makes it sound like horatio means he (JFK) was at Castro's funeral. Castro ain't dead, so I checked the only other person in the sentence who'd had a funeral.

Going all the way back up the text to Trudeau, well I missed that. Castro, Carter were honorary pallbearers. So, yep. Cool fact.

Also can't be arsed to read VanUden's drivel over more than 4 pages.

That's the beauty of words, you only have to read the ones you want to. You should try it, it's actually really easy.

lulz for Van Uden. Jog on. The reason i have no interest in having a pint with you is that you patronise and put down on one hand then decry how you are being insulted and attacked on the other, all the while trying to cling to the higher moral ground so you can keep spouting your sanctimonious shite. If ever I end up back in London and i'm misfortunate enough to find myself in your company I'll be perfectly happy to explain this to you, but I don't think you'll have the bear-like, manly courage to take it on board.

I've explained this very clearly to you and all you come back with is more self-aggrandising gestures mixed with more put-downs, so please, do fuck off now you tedious git.

As long as you appreciate that what you've been accusing me of throughout this thread is exactly what you're also guilty of.

And if ever our paths do cross should you make it down to London I'm more than happy to listen to your views, as two adults behaving like adults. While you're quite happy to call me a cunt online I sincerely doubt you would do it to my face. If you did it would tell me everything I need to know about you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

So, Glenda Jackson didn't get the be nice about Thatcher for today memo it seems...

Excellent.

LFGSS fail, I cant rep Glenda Jackson, sigh...

;)

I'm not accepting that face plant, the post reads like this....

"and he was a personal friend of Castro - in fact, he was a pallbearer at his funeral"

... which makes it sound like horatio means he (JFK) was at Castro's funeral. Castro ain't dead, so I checked the only other person in the sentence who'd had a funeral.

Going all the way back up the text to Trudeau, well I missed that. Castro, Carter were honorary pallbearers. So, yep. Cool fact.

I will use simpler sentences that don't require understanding of history in the future.

I've just watched that too. A fantastic antidote to the rest of the BBC News 24 coverage.

interment?

I nearly replied, "No, It's spelt internet"

but yeah, burial, whatever

apologies if this is a repost: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/09/russell-brand-margaret-thatcher

russell brand in talking sense shocker

Read that last night. Not a fan but that is brilliantly written

Tis forum needs to HTFU, its like a Trotsky fan club meeting behind the bike sheds in here.

If you think police brutality and state suppression was a Thatcherite invention, you have no idea of British history. My dad grew up a roman catholic in the 30's, and he will tell you a thing or 2 about police brutality back then that makes the 80's look like a walk in the park.

The nation was fucked when she took power, and there where riots and violence a plenty before she came to power. Years of mismanagement of British industry are what did for the people who she supposedly fucked over, she took a sledge hammer to the problems, but your fools if you think it would have been any different in the end under anyone else.

I have been a member here for a long time, and it used to be that we could all agree to disagree but respect each others opinion, but the attitude shown on here is as narrow minded as any daily mail Thatcherite love in.

Lets talk about Arthur Scargill, he's the one who lead em all on a merry dance into Thatchers clutches, but while she's lying there cold he's sitting there warming himself in his grace and favour flat.

Thatcher was a direct result of the socialist movements inability to organise a piss up in a brewery, if they hadn't pissed away the good will of a nation then she never would have come to power.

tl;dr

whats this about a statue on the fourth plinth?

fucking the arts again?

Tis forum needs to HTFU, its like a Trotsky fan club meeting behind the bike sheds in here.

If you think police brutality and state suppression was a Thatcherite invention, you have no idea of British history. My dad grew up a roman catholic in the 30's, and he will tell you a thing or 2 about police brutality back then that makes the 80's look like a walk in the park.

The nation was fucked when she took power, and there where riots and violence a plenty before she came to power. Years of mismanagement of British industry are what did for the people who she supposedly fucked over, she took a sledge hammer to the problems, but your fools if you think it would have been any different in the end under anyone else.

I have been a member here for a long time, and it used to be that we could all agree to disagree but respect each others opinion, but the attitude shown on here is as narrow minded as any daily mail Thatcherite love in.

Lets talk about Arthur Scargill, he's the one who lead em all on a merry dance into Thatchers clutches, but while she's lying there cold he's sitting there warming himself in his grace and favour flat.

Thatcher was a direct result of the socialist movements inability to organise a piss up in a brewery, if they hadn't pissed away the good will of a nation then she never would have come to power.

^ill-informed bullshit, but I'm still happy to agree to disagree in the same disrespectful fashion we all did in 2007. Your recall seems a little skewed on that one as well, something you're welcome to deny.

Tis forum needs to HTFU, its like a Trotsky fan club meeting behind the bike sheds in here.

If you think police brutality and state suppression was a Thatcherite invention, you have no idea of British history. My dad grew up a roman catholic in the 30's, and he will tell you a thing or 2 about police brutality back then that makes the 80's look like a walk in the park.

The nation was fucked when she took power, and there where riots and violence a plenty before she came to power. Years of mismanagement of British industry are what did for the people who she supposedly fucked over, she took a sledge hammer to the problems, but your fools if you think it would have been any different in the end under anyone else.

I have been a member here for a long time, and it used to be that we could all agree to disagree but respect each others opinion, but the attitude shown on here is as narrow minded as any daily mail Thatcherite love in.

Lets talk about Arthur Scargill, he's the one who lead em all on a merry dance into Thatchers clutches, but while she's lying there cold he's sitting there warming himself in his grace and favour flat.

Thatcher was a direct result of the socialist movements inability to organise a piss up in a brewery, if they hadn't pissed away the good will of a nation then she never would have come to power.

The fact you cant bring yourself to actively support her, only pass her off as a failure of the left to stop her, speaks volumes.

That you sound like a condescending wally doesn't help either.

I respect a difference of opinion if it's offered without conditions. Her death is being used by a minority elected portion of a coalition to stoke a debate confined only to sentimentalism and lies, supported by the majority of the national press.

The blatant hypocrisy of the right in refusing to recognise her contribution to the profound economic mess we're in, while simultaneously parading the same economic blueprint as saving the nation, is going completely unchallenged.

And when did it become received wisdom that Trotsky and Marx are irrelevant and fashonable to mock? When Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand became canonised instead?

Lol - I didn't support her, I just think that some of the raving on here is as excessive as the loving going on over at the Daily Mail.

I just find the real venom directed at anyone not willing to piss on her grave in this thread a little bit depressing, and ironic given that those shouting the loudest are only doing themselves what they accuse Thatcher of doing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

get it up ye's Tory fantasists and fanatacists!

those shouting the loudest are only doing themselves what they accuse Thatcher of doing.

HOW'S THAT THEN*? [shouting for effect]

*not to be misinterpreted as an inaccurate Savilism

I never accused thatcher of shouting loudly. And as far as I can see there is no proven corollary between decibels and asset stripping a country and selling future generations down the river* a la Maggie*.

^ill-informed bullshit, but I'm still happy to agree to disagree in the same disrespectful fashion we all did in 2007. Your recall seems a little skewed on that one as well, something you're welcome to deny.

Hehe, it's funny being patronised by someone with such a shaky grasp of history

Have we mentioned her love for Pol Pot, btw?

Glenda Jackson, what an excellent speaker. (Irrespective of the content.) Superb rhetoric.

Glenda Jackson launches tirade against Thatcher in tribute debate - YouTube

So, Glenda Jackson didn't get the be nice about Thatcher for today memo it seems...