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  • While I have no sympathy for cyclists getting words or a £30 fine for RLJ etc, is anyone else quite concerned about this?

    The Met must be pissing away money here while going on about their restricted budget and aren't investigating collisions outside their doorstep (recent discussion on dangerous drivers thread >>>>>>>>>). For example, has anyone see them bust a driver/motorcyclist at one of these crackdowns?

    Absolutely agree that there's an absolute fuck-ton of better things for coppers to be doing.
    But in these times of cuts, isn't snapping 10 cyclists every half hour with a £30 fine quite a good way of making money? Assuming the £ gets pumped right back into the police force (which I don't know a thing about). Even if just to get crime stats up and get more funding (????) it makes sense.

  • It doesn't, as far as I remember.

  • It goes into the tax system (along with vehicle excise duty, VAT, corp tax ET al). Which does pay for the police force... In a round about way.

  • ^^^ watch the wire. it's all about high-end drug busts.

    stop juking the stats!

  • RJL is a stepping stone crime.

  • It's a not stopping stoned crime.

  • how do they stop you? can you not just cycle off?

  • Absolutely agree that there's an absolute fuck-ton of better things for coppers to be doing.
    But in these times of cuts, isn't snapping 10 cyclists every half hour with a £30 fine quite a good way of making money? Assuming the £ gets pumped right back into the police force (which I don't know a thing about). Even if just to get crime stats up and get more funding (????) it makes sense.

    I can imagine that the collection and administration of said fines probably takes up a lion share of the amount collected once it's been seen through to completion.

  • Watch out for the police on Tooley street. They been there the last two mornings pulling over cyclists riding from east to west from Tooley Street/Tower Bridge junction.

  • ^ tower bridge road too. like 10. was ridiculous.

  • Absolutely agree that there's an absolute fuck-ton of better things for coppers to be doing.

    I can imagine that the collection and administration of said fines probably takes up a lion share of the amount collected once it's been seen through to completion.

    I agree with the sentiment they could be busting rapists and other nobs, but how are the Police to respond to public calls for crackdown on dangerous cyclists? When people ask what the met are doing, they can produce a list of enforcement areas and figures on fines.

    They also do boring stuff like this when they've got no intel on drug dealers and robbers to act on.

    The full economic cost, if you consider all costs beyond the plod standing there (radio system, control centre, admin staff, office buildings, tea and biscuits, paperwork, archives, computer systems, pensions, NI... list is rather endless), will be far outweighed by any return from fines.

  • Watch out for the police on Tooley street. They been there the last two mornings pulling over cyclists riding from east to west from Tooley Street/Tower Bridge junction.

    ^ tower bridge road too. like 10. was ridiculous.

    Good. It annoys me seeing all the cyclists going down the street despite it being marked as closed off.

  • What are the possible implications of simply carrying on when asked to stop for RLJ?
    Will they chase you? Search for you?
    What are you guilty of in doing so?

    in theory.

  • I'll quote a story from myself two years ago to answer that question.

    Also I would like to state that I am reformed since this incident and RLJ no more.

    Funny/shameful story for you lot.

    About 6 months ago I RLJ by Bank on my way to work. Copper in all black jumps out from pavement to stop me, I only noticed him when he grabbed my shoulder, I proceeded to shurg it off and thought fuck it, hes on foot, Im on bike, so i just carried on merrily.

    But oh no, thats when the madness starts. He radios in other cops who in a military like operation descend on me one after another from side streets, all trying to block my path. Clearly I had been playing too much grand theft auto the night before, I swerved round each one. They couldn't keep up with their silly hybrids but they just kept on appearing from the side streets. Eventually I heard sirens, noticed a few on motorbikes and a cop car and thats when I realised this was bonkers so i got off the bike and "surrendered".

    They proceeded to arrest me on suspicion of stealing my bike (fair enough, although it was police tagged in my name, but the database wasn't working that day, hhhmm), and they also suspected I was a drug dealer and dvd pirate man. They handcuffed me and took me to the slammer. Had to wear an inmate outfit which was quite funny as it was about 3 sizes to small. I had to wait in a cell for 3 hours until I saw someone. In that time, I did more push ups/squats/sitsups than I have done in years through shear boredom. Eventually the lawyer I requested came in to tell me what to say when I got interviewed by mister inspector and so I said it and was given an official caution. Apparently lasts 5 years and means I cannot be a teacher or a lawyer or jobs of that nature. I didnt get a fine though which was nice.

    It was totally stupid of me to dodge all those coppers but my ever so slightly rebellious nature took over, I made that split second decision to avoid the first one and from there I had to stick with it.

    Ooops!

  • Good. It annoys me seeing all the cyclists going down the street despite it being marked as closed off.
    The Tooley st area is crazy. When they started the works they just closed it down and set up a poorly signposted 800 metre diversion down the deadliest streets in Southwark.
    After a lot of fuss and complaints to TfL several improvements were made letting cyclists go some of the way and giving some escape routes for people who work in the area. As the works change they will move things around hopefully leaving what space they can for us.
    Going east from Tower Bridge, I cross into the short contraflow, across the churchyard (cycling permitted) then Crucifix lane. Or you can walk the closed bits to get down to one of the small side streets and through to Bermondsey st.
    When I went past last week the police were overexcited, they had called in a van of TSG because they stopped someone they thought might be a real criminal.

  • Was idly cutting across Primrose Hill recently (which you're not supposed to do). It was about 6.30pm, dark and empty but suddenly realised there was a car following me which kind of freaked me out as the path is pretty narrow. I rode on thinking it must be the parky but then the sirens went on and got a pretty aggressive stop. Took all my details which I gave honestly and told I might get a fine.

    Nothing as yet but put me off from that shortcut again.

  • The Tooley st area is crazy. When they started the works they just closed it down and set up a poorly signposted 800 metre diversion down the deadliest streets in Southwark.
    After a lot of fuss and complaints to TfL several improvements were made letting cyclists go some of the way and giving some escape routes for people who work in the area. As the works change they will move things around hopefully leaving what space they can for us.
    Going east from Tower Bridge, I cross into the short contraflow, across the churchyard (cycling permitted) then Crucifix lane. Or you can walk the closed bits to get down to one of the small side streets and through to Bermondsey st.
    When I went past last week the police were overexcited, they had called in a van of TSG because they stopped someone they thought might be a real criminal.

    Isn't it easier to just go around the whole mess? I don't get it. Why go through there if you have to get off your bike and walk.

    https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=Jamaica+Rd%2FA200&daddr=51.5037869,-0.0859591+to:Tooley+St%2FA200&hl=en&sll=51.501584,-0.072956&sspn=0.021265,0.038581&geocode=FRDREQMdLOn-_w%3BFariEQMdObD-_ynzg6VlWgN2SDGfe_lalIPTlA%3BFWbpEQMdpLL-_w&mra=dme&mrsp=0&sz=15&via=1&t=m&z=15

  • I'll quote a story from myself two years ago to answer that question.

    Also I would like to state that I am reformed since this incident and RLJ no more.

    Someone else had a worse experience before that didn't they? I remember someone escaping from the cars and then eventually getting taken out by a police car.

  • that was the plot of premium rush mate...

  • Someone else had a worse experience before that didn't they? I remember someone escaping from the cars and then eventually getting taken out by a police car.

    Really? That sucks. I reckon mine was heading that way if I had continued evading any longer.

  • The Good - The Cycle Task force out en masse this morning on the south side of Southwark Bridge (stopping people heading NOrth) doing the free bike marking and offering people the chance to sit in the cab of a lorry. Got one of the bikes marked up now which has been on my to do list for about 2 years

    The not so good - the north side of Southwark Bridge there is a policeman hiding behind a parked lorry just before Cannon St where I presume he is going to be ticketing cyclists that go through the lights early

  • not so good - the north side of Southwark Bridge there is a policeman hiding behind a parked lorry just before Cannon St where I presume he is going to be ticketing cyclists that go through the lights early

    They are traffic officers and were studying the upper Thames ST junction, ignoring the melee of cyclists on wrong side of road due to peds/builders running about the place

  • Careful in Richmond Park.....got a warning from police on speeding 32 in a 20....apparently its one of the only places in the country where its offence, on normal roads bikes can go any speed they want. Last week I got stopped for doing 20mph which was blocking the traffic.

  • How are they measuring the speed of the cyclists?

  • They are traffic officers and were studying the upper Thames ST junction, ignoring the melee of cyclists on wrong side of road due to peds/builders running about the place

    It's a bit of a free for all there recently, with people wandering all over the road and no obvious route for bikes heading in either direction.

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