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• #58027
CX = cyclocross
not advisable not to used sealed bearings. dirt.
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• #58028
@barmeybear - more than suitable start for your custom Nag here
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• #58029
@barmeybear - more than suitable start for your custom Nag here
Cheers man, all looks lovely, got some cranks/bb/headset sorted though, hubs are all i need, and for £10 more, I can get a new set of dura ace 32h
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• #58030
I thought NJS = 36h ?
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• #58031
ahh, it is, but then a tubular must be used, and to be honest screw that, even if clinchers don't conform to the NJS theme, I'm going to use h+sons tb14, I think they look most liked the Araya gold NJS model
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• #58032
Slightly fallacious argument...unsealed bearings were the only bearings for the first 150-odd years of cycling. To suddenly call them 'unsuitable' is a bit misleading. They're fine for any application - but require a little more (regular) maintenance to keep smooth when there's dirt about.
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• #58033
Most people here have said that they are fine. And that is exactly what' I wanted to hear, tubular tyres where what I was calling unsuitable due to the fact they are a nightmare to repair on the road
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• #58034
that's BS, they're fine, not for CX for sure, but fine
come one, most of the low- and mid-end MTBs' wheelsets are laced to Shimano hubs which are all lose bearings as well, and i don't hear masses of MTBers complain about itBearings can have seals without being cartridge bearings.
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• #58035
all modern hubs have these "seals" you are talking about, so that's not the point really
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• #58036
Fuck me, we need a hub 101 course for most of you numpties.
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• #58037
1992 56cm Vitus 979 Shimano 600 (Ultegra) in progress.
Pre Clean:
Post Clean
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• #58038
nitpicking.
service regularly, care and don't go off road - everything will be alright. -
• #58039
Exactly, after all this, I think the Goldtec pro's with ceramic bearings have come up trumps.
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• #58040
I think you should go for DA, and look after them, they will look fit. Goldtechs are ugly
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• #58041
all modern hubs have these "seals" you are talking about, so that's not the point really
O'Shane and I had the SF and LF versions of these beautiful hubs, I'm assuming this version as it looks right although the age isn't indicated by what I can read at work:
Last time I adjusted the cones, I'm pretty sure those outer shiny bits were just covers. Are those not modern hubs?
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• #58042
all modern hubs have these "seals" you are talking about, so that's not the point really
That depends on;
i. Whether or not you fit those little bits of rubber to your DAs.
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• #58043
my LBS guy says you just cannot beat campag hubs, but he is a bit old school..would doubt if he knew half the manufacturers we were talking about on here.
I'll get a pic of my mack hubs on here soon, they look pretty sweet, if a little HHSB in gold..
:-)
+1 Especially the higher end hubs. I have a pair of 70s record HF and a pair on 60s nuevo tipo HF, and they roll ridiculously well. Not sure if its the wheel size (27" vs. 700c) but on every group ride on downhills, I catch people/ take them very easily, despite having a poor aero position, a non 'aero' bike. Obviously on the ups, my lard arse doesn't quite operate in the same way. but still, rolling resistance can be massively different between various hubs/wheels/tyre combos.
In other news, the filthy barn find trek 470 is finished! Prob only took 5/6hours to strip, clean, de-pigeon-poop, rebuild and setup. For a low/medium 90s basic steel bike its not bad, 23lbs, mostly in the frame I guess. Looks quite tidy, and in love with brifters already, no more friction auto shift on out of the saddle climbs!
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• #58044
I think you should go for DA, and look after them, they will look fit. Goldtechs are ugly
Not ugly, just less good looking. I know the Goldtec pro's will last for years without me having to take a second glance. But with DA's I'll always be worried about rain/dirt/abuse. It's not going to be a fair weather nag
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• #58045
Not sure if its the wheel size (27" vs. 700c) but on every group ride on downhills, I catch people/ take them very easily, despite having a poor aero position, a non 'aero' bike. Obviously on the ups, my lard arse doesn't quite operate in the same way. but still, rolling resistance can be massively different between various hubs/wheels/tyre combos.
Not being awful, but I seriously doubt that is down to your hub bearings. The 27" wheels will probably have more of an effect.
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• #58046
Not being awful, but I seriously doubt that is down to your hub bearings. The 27" wheels will probably have more of an effect.
well, their you go! knew the large difference was due to something!
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• #58047
O'Shane and I ...
hang on...are you his brother?
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• #58048
hang on...are you his brother?
They're both Welsh, so probably.
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• #58049
Yah.
We bought a set of wheels each consisting of the last pair of large flange Campag track hub in the UK (iirc) then had to settle on some small flange as there weren't any large flange to have. I also have some old Campag track hubs just like these -
Should probably sell some wheels...
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• #58050
Cross posting this re: Dura-Ace seals, in case someone can contribute.
my LBS guy says you just cannot beat campag hubs, but he is a bit old school..would doubt if he knew half the manufacturers we were talking about on here.
I'll get a pic of my mack hubs on here soon, they look pretty sweet, if a little HHSB in gold..
:-)