30 mph speed limit for bikes?

Imagine that^: Your race gets screwed and then you get called a racist minstral!!!

Saying that, it was the 70s. That kinda stuff was cool back then.

Because it takes longer to get to their destination.

Interesting. So your saying if you increase the speed limit, people will get everywhere faster?

entertaining debate there. some usual cracks and lovely lateralism from MG. good to know weve got an instructor on here now. tell me why do most drivers abandon everything youve taught them about leaving riders room chilling back til theyve moved away the moment theyre let out alone.?
and
do you think its shit that basic driver training is all the average punter ever does before lifetime of petrol addiction.?
lastly, do you consider that getting youngsters hooked into the car career-you know saxo then astra then mondeo then fourbyfour is the same as enticing drug use,?
amazes me how much petrol keeps going up and addiction keeps growing.
anyway.
accpo was the question-are they gonna start enforcing 20 zones.
night chaps

I don't teach most drivers, I'm guessing most of the other instructors I've met ain't cyclists too, I really try to get across to people to give more vulnerable road users room, tell them to go ride a bike too. I like teaching cyclists, they generally 'get' the roads a bit more. Never really thought of an old corsa as a gateway car, but I'd prefer people to drive less, and better.
I fancy a career change anyway

^ Whilst initially investigating this I came across claims from several of people being nicked for "wanton and furious cycling". I have been threatened with this once by the police after being knocked off my bike by angrycunt the motorist, luckily I had a good witness and angrycunt was the one to get nicked.
Whilst we are on the subject and some seem to be posting what speed they can achieve, I have hit 39.6mph descending North Hill in Danbury on an 81" fixed. Not something I will repeat in a hurry.Scary.

I was charged with cycling furiously and resisting arrest a long time ago. I always though it was specific to Scottish law, apparently not.

69
You MUST obey all traffic signs and traffic light signals.
[Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD reg 10(1)]

So, does this mean if there was a 30 sign, a speed limit would be imposed on bicycles? This whole, no-speed-limit-for-bikes thing is new to me.

yes but lots of things are unenforcable
@snottyotter,
yep, better is the key, Im almost over the why do so many people endure the misery,
and increasingly get bothered about *how *they do so so badly.

Depends who the law is aimed at, cyclists and motorised vehicle drivers don't always have the same rules apply to them

I teach people to drive in my car, so can't worry too much about luxuries like round wheels and the like

Oh god. I'm never going up north again.

what Islington?

Nah, the grim north.

Finsbury Park?

getting warmer

but it's colder

and wetter

Cockfosters?

I want to live there now, great name for a place

Fresh off the boat (Heathrow) it's a great to get on the next train all stations to Cockfosters. There's just something special about the place..

I was driving down Camberwell Grove the other day, at a speed that meant I could go over the speed bumps without slowing, so ~18-20mph.

Car behind leant on the horn, flashed its lights, then over took me, racing off to the end of the road.

Where I pulled up behind them, as the traffic meant they couldn't pull out.

I was cycling down a small hill that has small speed bumps in the middle of each lane. I was skirting around the edge of each speed bump faster than cars can drive over them, and had a car driver behind me beep his horn and flash his lights. He then proceeded to overtake me at speed (in a 30 zone), pulled back in and promptly crashed into the back of the car in front that was slowing for the next speed bump.

Back when I was a student in Edinburgh, I was heading back from a ride down a long downhill through the southern suburbs. Right here in fact: http://g.co/maps/nyhgr. I was going fairly quick (no speedo, but high 20s if memory serves) when some boy racer decides he must pass me just as we go by the speed camera shown. Cue a couple of flashes and some angry gestures.

I'm pretty sure i get flashed by a camera almost daily on my commute, i am going fromm Liverpool to Birchwood (up north) and it is down a bit of a hill but it always starts my day well. Generally go past at ~35mph according to the GPS

I still can't see you as a driving instructor Rob, every time I've seen you, you're pissed ;)

makes teaching easier, calms the nerves

Seems even the government now agree that lower speeds will make cycling (and walking) less risky
http://www.bikebiz.com//news/read/to-increase-cyclist-safety-reduce-motor-vehicle-speeds
http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/infrastructure-and-cyclist-safety/infrastructure-and-cyclist-safety.pdf

"Of all interventions to increase cycle safety, the greatest benefits come from reducing motor vehicle speeds. Interventions that achieve this are also likely to result in casualty reductions for all classes of road user. This may be achieved by a variety of methods, including physical traffic calming; urban design that changes the appearance and pedestrian use of a street; and, possibly, the wider use of 20 mph speed limits."