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• #12403
Yeah; that'll help with stability!
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• #12404
Authorities became suspicious when Mr Sanchez's fingerprints were allegedly found on his death certificate.
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• #12405
Yeah; that'll help with stability!
Yeah, to be replaced with none other than a BANKER!
So now the banks are taking over an entire COUNTRY?!
It just gets more ridiculous by the minute.
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• #12406
**@steveclewer **tweets: The words 'chaos', 'economic' and 'problem' are all Greek in origin #etymology #G20 #greece #euro
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• #12407
capitalismisn'tworking.jpeg
To miss quote Churchill capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.
IMO people in this country don't live in a capitalist system anyway, so that's the wrong starting point. Second, from what I can see most of the problems that stem from what people perceive as the 'Capitalist System' are actually a result of corruption, and people being wholly unrealistic and selfish. Thirdly, if you look at a country like Germany*, you can visibly see what a difference having a free market economy can make to a population's living standards.
*yes I do realise there are a load of counters to that, but I still like it as an example.
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• #12408
Yeah, to be replaced with none other than a BANKER!
There's nothing inherently wrong with bankers. Good banks/banking/bankers provide the funding that create trade and commercial enterprise. Without out it this country wouldn't be as prosperous as it is today and the majority of us wouldn't all be living in the relative luxury we live in when compared to the rest of the world.
At it's heart it's about properly managing risk, if it's done well there is no problem.
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• #12409
Got sent this: http://bruxelles.blogs.liberation.fr/UBS%20fin%20de%20l%27euro.pdf
interesting imo.
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• #12410
So when exactly do we think the Chinese will invade Europe?
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• #12411
So when exactly do we think the Chinese will invade Europe?
What do you mean, 'when'?
Physical invasion is costly and dreadfully old fashioned.
Financial invasion is much more profitable - they virtually own half of Africa, and they recently gave the US a public bollocking for being so silly with the money they borrowed from the Chinese.
If we realised just how much of the European pie they had dibs on it would make for grim reading... -
• #12412
There's nothing inherently wrong with bankers. Good banks/banking/bankers provide the funding that create trade and commercial enterprise. Without out it this country wouldn't be as prosperous as it is today and the majority of us wouldn't all be living in the relative luxury we live in when compared to the rest of the world.
At it's heart it's about properly managing risk, if it's done well there is no problem.
Maybe, but all this to avoid a refferendum on something that will directly affect the Greek people for possibly generations to come? it seems a bit rash to slot an unelected banker into the position of power right about now...
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• #12413
I read that the Chinese aren't in the least bit interested in bailing out Europe, and I can't say I blame them. Whether that means they'll differ from the American's 'global police' role during their reign as the most influential nation on Earth because they've learned from the mistakes the US made so far as image is concerned, not to mention dubious practices, or whether that would be down to them preferring to keep their own house in order to the possible detriment to the rest of the world, remains to be seen.
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• #12414
What do you mean, 'when'?
Physical invasion is costly and dreadfully old fashioned.
Financial invasion is much more profitable - they virtually own half of Africa, and they recently gave the US a public bollocking for being so silly with the money they borrowed from the Chinese.
If we realised just how much of the European pie they had dibs on it would make for grim reading...You're quite right lucy, I was just been flippant (that was obvious, right?).
I too suspect we'll be bled dry for a while longer yet and they'll continue to manufacture everything for everyone while we flounder around with our karaoke and calculators, wanking off into unpaid credit card bills.
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• #12415
To miss quote Churchill capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.
IMO people in this country don't live in a capitalist system anyway, so that's the wrong starting point. Second, from what I can see most of the problems that stem from what people perceive as the 'Capitalist System' are actually a result of corruption, and people being wholly unrealistic and selfish. Thirdly, if you look at a country like Germany*, you can visibly see what a difference having a free market economy can make to a population's living standards.
*yes I do realise there are a load of counters to that, but I still like it as an example.
How about the counter that we have the Anglo-Saxon free market model in the UK, whereas Germany has been run as a Rhine economy?
Just saying.
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• #12417
this quote makes sense..
if you owe the bank a million dollars, you're in trouble; if you owe them a hundred million, they're in trouble
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• #12418
So what happens when a million is small change and we're talking trillions?
Money has lost all meaning.
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• #12419
far too many columns inches concerning debt crisis of 1931 being quoted and angst over 'conspiracy theorists and ultra right growing in europe today'. this kind of freedom for the press is quite dangerous :(
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• #12420
time fo Plan B
Hummm....
owed as part of the Versailles reparations treaty
It's not quite the same thing is it.
As far as I can see, Germany are not trying to completely devastate and cripple Greece in retaliation for getting their arses kicked, and to ensure that they become the dominant continental power going forward. But maybe I'm wrong.
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• #12421
Just in case this hasnt been posted yet:
http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Judge_William_Adams
(about a Arkansas judge beating his daughter quite badly, and the video the daughter released of it)
I think Encyclopaedia Dramatica did a jolly good write up of the whole thing, even has a transcript for scobles.
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• #12422
i thought encyclopedia dramatica was down, glad to see its back up
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• #12423
*"there are a handful of banking families, including the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, who have come to dominate economic and political affairs in the Western world. Unlike aristocrats, **capitalalists *are not tied to a place, or to the maintenance of a place. Capital is disloyal and mobile - it flows to where the most growth can be found, as it flowed from Holland to Britain, then from Britain to the USA, and most recently from everywhere to China."
Richard K. Moore/New Dawn Magazine/Global Researchhe's just sayin like...........
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• #12424
All this fuss about Greece, when it's just the glowing splint. Italy is the big, feck-off rocket on the launchpad. It's entirely possible that the EU/Eurozone might end up with a North/South split. Some kind of financial firewall between them.
If ever a problem needed leadership, it's this one. But it looks like events are driving things now.
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• #12425
Well I'm an hour into that, but I suspect the end won't feature Julia Roberts laughing her ass off having made up with the love of her life she fought so hard to woo back throughout the first half.
http://www.movie2k.to/Inside-Job-watch-movie-525565.html