BB Gun vs Cyclists - Hampshire

FreeBornAde, I would love to hear this story. It sounds incredible from what you've said so far...

Carriying an imitation firearm in public is a very Over rated offence. You can have a pretty crappy excuse and get away with it. AND in the video it looks like the weapon is "two tone" (painted half a bright colour) which is a now legal obligation if you don't carry a VCRA licence. SO, he could say he was off to do some target shooting and it was in a bag in the car and get away with it, obviously this would be if it hadn't been caught on camera. But when push comes to shove...What a wanker!

Carrying*

Well, having suffered, in my solicitors words, "the worst and most vicious hate campaign we have ever encountered", including 3000 death threats by email, text and voicemail, assault, attempted murder (trying to hit me with a car), false accusations of rape, and a million other incidents to myself, my friends and my family, over four years, and after repeated complaints to the police, which were totally ignored, it was no surprise that it turned out my attacker was living with a senior police officer and has a history of such things. It took police officers from out of the area to finally take things in hand.

So i have learnt that anything is possible !
kin ell !!!!!! well done on not going mental through that ordeal !! makes some bastard throwing a bottle of magners at me out of the car window last friday seem like bugger all !!

Scum.
I bet the cops would have jumped to attention* if they'd shot at a woman pushing a pram along the pavement.

*been forced into action by the outraged local/national media

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-13603352
The police are appealing for witnesses! So that evidence isn't enough?
According to some local cyclists this isn't the first time in the Bramshill area.

Scum.
I bet the cops would have jumped to attention* if they'd shot at a woman pushing a pram along the pavement.

*been forced into action by the outraged local/national media

How newsworthy or 'good' the story was would have depended on the colour of the woman pushing the pram. In this case white carries a lucky bullseye bonus. Sad but true, hard to believe sometimes that this is 2011.

As a flippant aside if the woman pushing the pram had been say a Gypsy woman loosely related somehow to the Gypsy woman who recently ripped of a borough to the tune of many thousands the headline would have been something like:

Fun gun hero

Cheeky BB bravado

Pram and deliver!

A search for that registration number and make of car on the DVLA Vehicle Check page shows that the reg number indeed belongs to a silver Ford.

That's quite a coincidence but surely the Police have checked it out? Maybe the people in this car noted down the reg when they saw a car that was the same make/model as theirs, and had fake plates made up, and the genuine owner has a cast iron alibi for where their car was on the day. Or maybe the genuine car is simply same make, same colour, different model to this one.

An interesting aside is that the genuine owner is behind with their car tax, which was due on 1st May. The genuine car could be SORNed because it's not driveable, which would be another cast iron alibi for them.

I had a cnut take a pop at me with a catapult and steel ball bearings earlier this year.
Local Police took it seriously, but the car was unregistered. They put a bit in the local paper asking for witnesses, but no luck.

http://www.kent.police.uk/Your%20Area/east_kent/news/Catapult_fired_at_cy.html

I am tempted to carry my Tikka T3, that'll see to anyone.

Kinda difficult to fire a bolt action (or any) rifle when riding a bike no?

FreeBornAde, I would love to hear this story. It sounds incredible from what you've said so far...

Ok.......I'll write it up tomorrow !

And don't forget, kids, sleep well. These events are very rare. It probably won't happen to you !

Probably..........

I cannot wait for this. Sounds unbelievable.

On a depressing note, I was watching an episode of Road Wars the other day. BMW X5 doing way over the limit on the wrong side of the road totals a little mazda leaving the woman critically injured. Police get there and find a drunk man from the local traveller site crawling through the nearby woodland with facial injuries concurrent with airbag impact. Turns out the guy has a prior for drink driving and then punching a police officer at the scene. They go to his place of residence and ask his wife if she recognises a BMW X5 and she says she's never seen one before.

They can't pin it on this bastard even though:

(1) He's at the scene of the crime.
(2) He's raging drunk and has OBVIOUSLY just been in a crash.
(3) He has priors for drink driving.
(4) CCTV footage shows the X5 leaving the travellers site 3 minutes before the crash, then just after the crash a load of this guys mates running out (presumably to help remove incriminating evidence from the car.)
(5) He admitted being in the car.

So this poor woman is disabled for life and this scumbag gets away with it, because apparently they can't PROVE he was driving, even if he was in the car. I was flabbergasted. It's more or less the same as being caught by a dead body holding a smoking gun and getting away scot free.

Kinda difficult to fire a bolt action (or any) rifle when riding a bike no?

But I can stop and get them anywhere within 400m
:-)

But I can stop and get them anywhere within 400m
:-)

Isn't a gun licence needed for a Tikka or similar?

Isn't a gun licence needed for a Tikka or similar?

Oh yes, but its worth the effort.

But I can stop and get them anywhere within 400m
:-)

Oh yes, but its worth the effort.

I read these and then look at your avatar - and am scared.

That would be quite some shot it has to be said.

A car travelling at 30 MPH would clear 400 meters in just under 30 seconds. In that time you would have to stop your bike, dismount it, adopt a suitable firing position (at the upper reaches of your range this would probably have to be prone), bring your weapon to bear, adjust for wind direction and bullet drop, (assuming that you are using a .308 this would be negligible but would have to be factored in nonetheless), work out how much to lead the target by, ensure that you are not putting any innocents in the firing line, check variables again, unsafe your weapon and then fire. Add to this the fact that your scope would probably need to re-zeroed what with all of the bumps / vibrations from carrying it on your bike, it would be a very impressive shot Mr Jackal. Hypothetically speaking of course.

That would be quite some shot it has to be said.

A car travelling at 30 MPH would clear 400 meters in just under 30 seconds. In that time you would have to stop your bike, dismount it, adopt a suitable firing position (at the upper reaches of your range this would probably have to be prone), bring your weapon to bear, adjust for wind direction and bullet drop, (assuming that you are using a .308 this would be negligible but would have to be factored in nonetheless), work out how much to lead the target by, ensure that you are not putting any innocents in the firing line, check variables again, unsafe your weapon and then fire. Add to this the fact that your scope would probably need to re-zeroed what with all of the bumps / vibrations from carrying it on your bike, it would be a very impressive shot Mr Jackal. Hypothetically speaking of course.

Maybe but you would get to practise on water melons.

Maybe but you would get to practise on water melons.

Or pumpkins

They can't pin it on this bastard even though:

(1) He's at the scene of the crime.
(2) He's raging drunk and has OBVIOUSLY just been in a crash.
(3) He has priors for drink driving.
(4) CCTV footage shows the X5 leaving the travellers site 3 minutes before the crash, then just after the crash a load of this guys mates running out (presumably to help remove incriminating evidence from the car.)
(5) He admitted being in the car.

Then they're not really trying. If he has facial injuries his DNA will be all over the driver's airbag (unless his mates removed it, I suppose). A drunk driver (coincidentally a copper) was done in exactly this way up in Tottenham a few years back.

That would be quite some shot it has to be said.

A car travelling at 30 MPH would clear 400 meters in just under 30 seconds. In that time you would have to stop your bike, dismount it, adopt a suitable firing position (at the upper reaches of your range this would probably have to be prone), bring your weapon to bear, adjust for wind direction and bullet drop, (assuming that you are using a .308 this would be negligible but would have to be factored in nonetheless), work out how much to lead the target by, ensure that you are not putting any innocents in the firing line, check variables again, unsafe your weapon and then fire. Add to this the fact that your scope would probably need to re-zeroed what with all of the bumps / vibrations from carrying it on your bike, it would be a very impressive shot Mr Jackal. Hypothetically speaking of course.

Hmmm, apart from the fact that the vehicle would probably be moving away from me so it would be a zero deflection shot and I wouldn't have to worry about drop as at 400m zero the round is only 32cm above sight line at mid trajectory, so aim at centre of mass and it'll get the sucker no matter what. Oh, and I'd be quite happy with a standing shot for a target of that size.
Yes, apart from all that, you don't actually think that I would ride around with a gun slung on my back, do you?
Really

:-)

And its melons every time.

You're in a car, run him over. Hypothetically

You're in a car, run him over. Hypothetically

????
I thought I was on a bike, and he was in the car??

Just think it t'other way round then.

Hmmm, apart from the fact that the vehicle would probably be moving away from me so it would be a zero deflection shot and I wouldn't have to worry about drop as at 400m zero the round is only 32cm above sight line at mid trajectory, so aim at centre of mass and it'll get the sucker no matter what. Oh, and I'd be quite happy with a standing shot for a target of that size.
Yes, apart from all that, you don't actually think that I would ride around with a gun slung on my back, do you?
Really

:-)

And its melons every time.

All valid points but seeing as this is a hypothetical situation how about mounting these to your handlebars:

Really teach the little pricks a lesson AND have the potential to level their houses