Don't be a pussy, don't be a dick

Apologies to everyone.

Sir, your arguments are phallusious.

When it comes to lane positioning, I just let it all hang out.

G'wahn, or are you feeling pussyllanimous?

you're encouraging him Oliver and after he apologised:0)

It was too nice an opportunity to miss.

Be a dansky, be a schick.

Has this been resolved yet?

Don't be a dansky, don't be a schick.

Oh dear...

But seriously,

Telling people what not to do or what not to be, doesn't tell them what they should be doing. "Don't be a dick" almost implies that one is a dick already. "Take the lane you pussy!", is probably a bit wrong too... ;-)

You need a positive call to action for your pithy phrase. I tell trainees that they need to be respected and that the best way to get respect from the world is to give some out. If you are treating others well it's reasonable to demand good behavior too, that's a form of self respect. Aknowledgement(?) of others demands that they do the same for you I think.

So how about something like, "Give respect, expect respect". That feels akward verbally but the idea is there.

Going back to bed now....

"I'm OK, you're OK." (Formula for assertiveness.)

I'm not ok with that.

"Don't be afraid to take the lane, better than ending up in the drain"*

*needs work but you get the idea

I'm not ok

Do you have feelings of helplessness or hopelessness?

"Don't be afraid to take the lane, better than ending up in the drain"

A while back I came up with a slogan: "You're not riding a train, ride in the lane"
after I saw this vid:
YouTube - Metro's Greatest Hits

I hope all you car-haters can overcome the joy of seeing pick-ups get trashed, to appreciate the connection to cyclist positioning.

Destination positioning, mmkay?

I hope all you car-haters can overcome the joy of seeing pick-ups get trashed, to appreciate the connection to cyclist positioning.

This make me think about cycle lanes and junctions. If the numptys don't care that a MASSIVE tram is comming, what hope of them not turning infront of a cyclist.

That's exactly the point, Londres-rambler.
You're not as big and bad as a tram so you can't just plough your way at one side. Vulnerable users need to integrate to the pattern, cause they're not made of 20 tons of steel.

It would make a nice piece of propaganda to remix this tram vid with material of facilities that mis-engineer cyclist positioning (and cyclists that spontaneously mis-position). Pound the message to the heads of the unwashed masses with aid of quick cuts, one-liner science and dramatic music.

After making the problem clear show the solution: an ok-cyclist navigating gracefully in co-operation with other drivers.

Some of the youtube commenteur were pretty funny, most of them think that the Houston drivers need to 'get used' to having a tram, but in reality, some of them need to drive properly.

How are the driving lesson is in Texas? I assumed that it's varies from states? (it was piss-easy to pass one in Arizona).

You can't share something you don't own.

Ride like you own the road.

You can share something you don't own, like my colleagues sweeties that she's left in her draw.

You can share something you don't own, like my colleagues sweeties that she's left in her draw.

Well, at least that isn't being a pussy.....

Bump for further discussion....

don't be a dick!

Personally, since reading this thread I've introduced a couple of noob cyclists to road riding, and I use the term when advising them how to ride safely... I think the phrase sums it up nicely.

Thanks for bumping this Malaysian.
I rode today from Euston to Waterloo with a couple of people from Manchester to a meeting. Both of them are cycling instructor-trainers and very experienced riders in Mancs. After the ride they were amazed how we got absolutely no hassle having ridden centrally in the lane passing to the right to filter at lights or not filtering but waiting in traffic. They both said that if they had ridden like that back home they would have been beeped countless times.

So here's the question: Who dictates whether a cyclist is being a dick by riding primary occasionally slowing down traffic? Seems like the prevailing acceptable norm. Assertive cycling in London is so common that drivers rarely bat an eyelid or beep a horn anymore even when the rider maintains their assertive position even when they could have let a driver past, London drivers perhaps a getting the fact that the rider would probably catch up at the next light/jam/ hump.

They both loved crossing London finding it so easy compared to riding in Manchester.

Well to add to that, I live in Leeds, and often find myself having to control the lane. Now, I can't remember the last time I was beeped in such a situation, and very rarely have any bother, but have friends that are frequently at the recieving end of such behaviour. Now, I'm 6'2 and broadish, whereas the friends in question are generally of slighter stature, I often wonder if drivers direct their ill behaviour at people they believe will be easy targets? Or maybe I'm just lucky....

Thanks for bumping this Malaysian.
I rode today from Euston to Waterloo with a couple of people from Manchester to a meeting. Both of them are cycling instructor-trainers and very experienced riders in Mancs. After the ride they were amazed how we got absolutely no hassle having ridden centrally in the lane passing to the right to filter at lights or not filtering but waiting in traffic. They both said that if they had ridden like that back home they would have been beeped countless times.

So here's the question: Who dictates whether a cyclist is being a dick by riding primary occasionally slowing down traffic? Seems like the prevailing acceptable norm. Assertive cycling in London is so common that drivers rarely bat an eyelid or beep a horn anymore even when the rider maintains their assertive position even when they could have let a driver past, London drivers perhaps a getting the fact that the rider would probably catch up at the next light/jam/ hump.

They both loved crossing London finding it so easy compared to riding in Manchester.

biggest difference in manchester IMO is the number of minicabs per vehicle on the road. roads are full of them and they are so badly behaved.