What is a hipster? Look at this fucking hipster...

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Case and point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA_ckt2Myrc

Music playing ability is a lot easier to come by than actual writing talent. The glut of shite bands, Test Icles included, is indicative of this.

not a hipster ^^
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Music playing ability is a lot easier to come by than actual writing talent.

That's why it's called talent.

People like what they like, that's why they like it

People like what they like, that's why they like it

It's not like you to say that.

Any one who is not listening to The Based God right now is wrong about music. END OF.

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@EEI - I went to uni with one of the chaps from JLS and I can tell you that they aren't a manufactured group, they started it all off themselves, wrote the music and their lyrics before going on the xfactor. I used to get pretty much weekly event invitations on facebook to go see them a long time before they found fame.

People like what they like, that's why they like it

There's an old Polish off-beat comedy where one of the main characters says:

"I like melodies which I've heard already before.
Through the reminiscence.
How can I like the song I hear for the first time?"

What were the girl groups of the Sixties if not 'manufactured'? Didn't write their own songs, didn't have any say in anything including how they dressed or did their hair. Still made wonderful records.

@EEI - I went to uni with one of the chaps from JLS and I can tell you that they aren't a manufactured group, they started it all off themselves, wrote the music and their lyrics before going on the xfactor. I used to get pretty much weekly event invitations on facebook to go see them a long time before they found fame.

You see, an opinion then.

God, they're shit, aren't they?

Still, because I don't date daft twelve years old girls, I don't need to listen to them...

What were the girl groups of the Sixties if not 'manufactured'? Didn't write their own songs, didn't have any say in anything including how they dressed or did their hair. Still made wonderful records.

Perhaps you've missed my point.
Let them be.

But... I'd argue a little bit. Back then they'd take a raw talent (but still a talent) and use for their own gains, play the game according to their rules. Their being producers, investors, media.

Right now it sometimes slip producers' minds to test for the talent. It's more the right shape of tits to fit the rest of the ensemble. Or one boy gay, the other pretty, third a bad boy and fourth a caveman...

They have the skill and they use it. Music is there to give us some audio background for our miserable lives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mWW6kRITEY

^ Made my evening. Haven't seen that in years

I love this; like trying to storm out of a room and angrily pushing at a door that open inwards.

this made me giggle.

and will, i haven't forgotten, let me send you my pretentious song!

Whenever Chris Crash posts anything, I have to think of this:

YouTube - The Kinks - Dedicated follower of Fashion ( Orig. Promo)

:)

I'm quite fed up with people undermining craftsmen. Proper musicians are those.
They have the skill and they use it. Music is there to give us some audio background for our miserable lives.
I also used to consider some musicians as lame or sell-outs years ago, but now I like to listen to them every now and then, because their tracks remind me of the yesteryear. So fucking what?
There are plenty of "artists" I still wouldn't touch with a barge pole - not because I don't "get" them or because their tracks are to bouncy - it's because they're not true musicians/craftsmen nor artists, because they were puppets manufactured by a producer behind them, shaped up by media, thrown into the studio before performing live etc.

People who think that there's a place for one genre only are fools and nothing more. How can you be so narrow minded, people? There's music for dancing and there's music for rioting, there's music for making love and then there's for slashing wrists. And it's all good. There's also musac for the elevators and shopping centres. And it's very needed indeed.

Some years ago I thought that all lovers rock is lame and cringeworthy and ragga is the way to go. Now, after some time spent within the industry, I have more respect for Derrick Harriott than Capleton or Sizzla whose music is appealing to my angst and sense of rhythm, but at the same time disgust me, because of the hypocrisy, misogyny, sexism, homophobia and general cult of the ceiling cat. How can I associate myself with guys who bang about Jehova, but smoke crack backstage, drink Henessy, lock their women in the shack next to their house when they're on their periods? Now, pop lovers rock... Very lame, but has it's integrity in place. Still based on a solid craft.

I respect anyone who can come out on the stage in their local pub and try their material as opposed to any shit which is signed first, then recorded, then video's made.

latfh

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i don't even come on this forum enough to have formed any impressions of him or any of you but that made me LOL

YouTube - Why must I cry

Isn't that what punk was about before Blink 182?

Fuck the system, learn two chords, lay your own tracks, distribute them and make people spit at you?

:-)

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When I grow up OLD I want to be as comfortable in my out of touchness as you are

I'm so out of touch I'm in touch baby

Nowadays I only touch the cloth.

cut my life into pieces

this is my last resort

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