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  • 1st practice of the last race of the season is underway, and it's been a great season.

    I think I want Webber to be WDC, but he's been shit recently, so not sure he deservers it, and I doubt he'll make it.

  • Don't think vettell deserves it either, painful to say but alonso's looking good for sunday.... he's had a good 2nd half to the season.

    Button / Hamilton - where to start......!

  • i'm not a huge fan of f1 as the twisted faced german ruined any enjoyment for me but it seems to have got a bit better recently and now it's open right up to the last round.
    hopefully it will be a good race with the champion decided by racing not retirements, team orders or pit stops.

    be nice to see webber win it. despite being australian he seems like a sound chap and a cyclist too.

  • Yep, well excited about this

  • for the first time in 15 years im actually pretty interested in f1. hopefully it will be good telly...come on Lew....wait...he doesnt have much chance?....oh...webber it is then! anyone but alonso.....

  • as much a i want webber to win, i fear alonso is the best driver.

  • agree. dont particularly like alonso and his smugness however he's probably got this in the bag. too consistent to fuck it up here i think...

    the only real difference will be if hamilton really goes for it and piles on the pressure. he's certainlty agressive enough atm. could be a great finale!

  • Ha - Vettel's first weepy radio transmission once he'd won. Fair play though.

    Ha - Alonso's fist-shaking at Petrov from the cockpit after the race had finished.

    Ha - Brundle's comment - 'get real son'.

  • as much a i want webber to win, i fear alonso is the best driver.
    almost feel sorry for him

    Ha - Vettel's first weepy radio transmission once he'd won. Fair play though.
    that made me laugh

  • So pleased the petulant child Alonso threw it all away, and acted like a sore loser to boot. Seb would not have been my choice of winner, but I do like a man who cries when he wins, so my opinion of him has improved markedly.
    I hope Alonso never wins again.

  • Who was that girl sobbing on the radio at the finish?

  • Ha - Vettel's first weepy radio transmission once he'd won. Fair play though.

    Ha - Alonso's fist-shaking at Petrov from the cockpit after the race had finished.

    Ha - Brundle's comment - 'get real son'.

    All of this, bit of a procession after all, only interesting bit really was Liuzzi nearly taking Schuey's head off on turn 5 on lap 1.

    Ferrari blew it, by reacting to Webber Pitting when the SC came out - when they should have been concentrating on Vettel all along. Petrov did well to keep him behind for much of the race. I wonder if there was any favouritism there from Renault.
    Webber blew it, he was just so off form the whole weekend - I feel for him though - he looked so gutted in the post race interview - I actually thought he was going to get teary at one point.
    I'm glad for Vettel though, he played it perfectly - just like Kimi did a few years ago - everyone was so focused on Hamilton v Massa - and Kimi just slipped in there and nicked it by 1 point.

    I also love how obvious it is that both Jake Humphreys and DC think that Eddie Jordan is an absolute buffoon.

  • I also love how obvious it is that both Jake Humphreys and DC think that Eddie Jordan is an absolute buffoon.

    Don't forget Martin... he sounds like he hates Eddie Jordan

  • I like old Eddie. Saw him not so long ago wobbling on a bike in Mayfair. Not fond of boring old Coulthard in the slightest.

    Ferrari definitely blew it. They seemed almost sure they'd win, given most factors were in their favour. I actually thought Alonso was gracious in his interview afterwards. And well done Vettel. Led the championship precisely once, but right when it mattered.

    +1 to Martin Brundle – I’m not sure there’s a better sports broadcaster. He deserves more recognition – total natural.

  • +1 to Martin Brundle – I’m not sure there’s a better sports broadcaster. He deserves more recognition – total natural.

    I feel sorry for him. He has to sit with that moron in the commentary box each weekend. This weekend:

    Jonathan: Oh no! His front wings has fallen off.
    Martin: sigh no that's his rear wing sigh

  • similarly, i got sucked in to watching this again this year several after years of avoiding it. christ it really is a crass and bloated self-congratulatory corporate circle jerk disguised as sport isn't it? it's so insanely corporate, aspirational and elitist that it's almost beyond parody. even the pundits (supposedly our link to that rarefied world) present the show from yachts surrounded by bikini clad models, backslapping european royalty and generally being the kind of rolex wearing cunts who tuck their pink shirts into their white jeans.

    having said that i'm still essentially a small boy who's involuntarily intrigued by feats of cutting edge engineering, personal derring-do and lots of noise, speed and danger…so i'm always a bit conflicted about motorsport.

    ha! clefty, spot on. i'm not a fan of eddie jordan either, nearly everything he says makes no sense. actually listen to some of the things he comes out with: he seems to start off vaguely on track then inevitably starts to wander off topic. then confused and under pressure from a co-presenter to get to the fucking point ends up groping for the nearest hoary old cliché and usually ends up mangling it into some sort of garbled boss-eyed malapropism. he's a colossal idiot.

    and who's the clueless shouty weirdo of a commentator? with murray walker's retirement did they run a competition to find the world's next most falsely over-excited and senile buffoon? apart from shouting with surprise everytime he catches a glimpse of his own feet he also has the debilitating inability (for a commentator) to form coherent sentences when surprised/excited/shocked, which in his case is nearly all the fucking time. when he's not getting everything wrong i.e:

    • "OH! ERR! THE BLUE CAR PUTTING A BEAUTIFUL MOVE ON THE RED CAR THERE!"
    • "actually that's the red car passing the blue car"
    • "RIGHT!"

    He just works himself into a sort of spluttering incoherence and say stuff like: "OH! THERE HE GOES THOUGH! THERE! DOWN THEE. ERRR OH!"

    *facepalm.

  • I feel sorry for him. He has to sit with that moron in the commentary box each weekend. This weekend:

    Jonathan: Oh no! His front wings has fallen off.
    Martin: sigh no that's his rear wing sigh

    Ha. Bang on.

  • Here's the muppet, Jonathan Legard

    Any resemblance to the psychopathic vilain from 'Manhunter' is entirely coincidental...

  • Legard really is a fucking tool.
    I mean Murray did have his moments, but he was fucking hilairious - and having Brundle there to basically mop up worked really well.
    I really miss the old team.

    Brundle cracks me up, and really does know what he's talking about.

    Oh and I wish Jake Humphreys would drop that fucking ipad into the bay at Monaco.

    +1 on Eddie, utter berk.
    I liked when Eddie 'Interviewed' the owner of Red Bull at the end, and basically did all the talking - along with Jake Humphrey's comment afterwards about hearing more from Jordan than the Red Bull Owner..
    I also liked when they were walking down the grid before the race, Eddie got lost behind in the crowed as DC and JH were chatting, the held his hand out to some guy who totally shoulder checked him

  • Trouble with Vettel winning is that he's not a great racer. He's fast, as he proves in quailifying, but can't overtake in the way that Hamilton and Alonso can.
    I go for the David Croft/Anthony Davidson commentary, far superior to Legard/Brundle.
    And Eddie Jordan is way better than Coulthard, as he proved on the F1 forum after the race when Coulthard had a go at him, and Eddie just went silent; Coulthard, arrogant cunt, had to apologise.

  • I agree that DC is an arrogant tight trousered muppet sometimes and rather bland, but I will forever rate him for giving the bird and 'wanker' sign to Michael Schumacher whilst doing about 100+ miles an hour around a corner, after he cut him up.

    I'm not a massive fan of Alonso, but I respect that he is probably the most naturally talented driver out there with Hamilton.
    He is usually exciting to watch, especially when he is fighting with Hamilton.
    I thought he actually was quite magnanamous in defeat and liked him a little bit more.

  • His magnanimity* probably had a lot to do with being given a talking to by his team before facing the cameras. He wasn't magnanimous to Petrov :-)

    *that is a very difficult word to spell right.

  • I think Eddie Jordan is on of the best things about F1 on the bbc, if it wasn't for his eccentricity I'd of switched off a long time ago.

    To be honest I don't even know if I like formula one, (everything dooks said) but the bbc's coverage is exceptional. One thing I do admire about Jordan is he seems to have no allegiance when casting his opinion, he seems brutally honest. Unlike others when interviewed (drivers, bosses, investors) are always covering their own and teams asses. A typical example was when Alonso was being interviewed about ferrari's lack of strategy and he gave a generic non-expressive answer about the freedom of hindsight.

  • I tune in just see what shirt/trouser combo Eddie will have.

    Still feel bad for webber... possibly the closest he'll get.

    Also, Is it just me or are the modern purpose built tracks producing boring racing. Too smooth, too planned, to wide etc... ?

  • its not just you, the newer tracks like Singapore and Abu Dhabi are utterly bland and produce shit races, they keep throwing more money at them hoping they will be more exciting - I wish more drivers were involved in designing tracks.
    Istanbul, Monaco and Spa will always be favourites of mine, Istanbul particularly with the epic turn 8.

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