Stop the Cuts - National Demonstration

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  • +1 (well, not that SWP, the other one!)

    The SWP and their ANL style of anti-fascism had very little impact in deprived workign class areas if you compare them to the decades of street campaigning and confrontation by AFA, the Asian Youth Networks etc.

    Anyway, usually it is the SWP (or any similar vanguardist socialists for that matter) who hijack genuinely powerful grassroots campaigns, turn them into recruiting platforms, alienate the majority, and ruin chances of success. (see, for e.g. Stop the War)

    Oh I generally agree with you about the SWP but I know for certain that they did have a great effect on the isle of dogs. As a political party they are irrelevant but as activists, as people who will deliver the leaflets and co-ordinate action, many of them are very dedicated.
    I also agree with you about the role public demos play in change; they are the face of the campaign and it is what goes on behind that that makes the real difference.

  • shitloads of crowd control barriers all along Waterloo Bridge tonight assumedly in preperation for this tomorrow.

    For what it's worth, this kind of shit really pisses me off, IMO it's akin to the Tube Strikes, a few hundred people disrupting thousands of others' travel plans because they can't accept that things change. /controversy mode.

  • Fuck the lot of you. I'm all up for more cuts. Bloody freeloaders always wanting life easy, while somebody else works their arses off to sustain your mollycoddled lifestyle. If there's going to be any demonstrations, I say we FREE TEENSLAIN!

    ;)

  • shitloads of crowd control barriers all along Waterloo Bridge tonight assumedly in preperation for this tomorrow.

    For what it's worth, this kind of shit really pisses me off, IMO it's akin to the Tube Strikes, a few hundred people disrupting thousands of others' travel plans because they can't accept that things change. /controversy mode.

    Can't be arsed to argue with most of this but "a few hundred people"? There'll be thousands there today.

    Maybe see some of you later...

  • gonna go protest some shit up!!! POWPOWPOW!
    i dunno why we're protesting, but i know i dont like it
    [/typicalstudent]

  • demos are fun what ever your outlook lets head up to central and abuse some politicians

  • I would come but ive got a lecture :P

  • demos are fun what ever your outlook lets head up to central and abuse some politicians

    dicki, dicki, dicki....oh dear.

    "Central" is a defined area of Hong Kong. "Central London" is a broader area covering many defined areas in the centre of London. The correct phrase should be "...let's head up to Central London..." or "...let's head up to Westminster..."

    [/platini wannabe]

  • For those of you who believe that protesting isn't worth it:

    And protest can have an invisible ripple-effect that lasts for generations. A small group of women from Iowa lost their sons early in the Vietnam war, and they decided to set up an organization of mothers opposing the assault on the country. They called a protest of all mothers of serving soldiers outside the White House – and six turned up in the snow. Even though later in the war they became nationally important voices, they always remembered that protest as an embarrassment and a humiliation.

    Until, that is, one day in the 1990s, one of them read the autobiography of Benjamin Spock, the much-loved and trusted celebrity doctor, who was the Oprah of his day. When he came out against the war in 1968, it was a major turning point in American public opinion. And he explained why he did it. One day, he had been called to a meeting at the White House to be told how well the war in Vietnam was going, and he saw six women standing in the snow with placards, alone, chanting. It troubled his conscience and his dreams for years. If these women were brave enough to protest, he asked himself, why aren’t I? It was because of them that he could eventually find the courage to take his stand – and that in turn changed the minds of millions, and ended the war sooner. An event that they thought was a humiliation actually turned the course of history.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-protest-works-just-look-at-the-proof-2119310.html
    You may agree, you may not, but have a read. Have a think.

  • dicki, dicki, dicki....oh dear.

    "Central" is a defined area of Hong Kong. "Central London" is a broader area covering many defined areas in the centre of London. The correct phrase should be "...let's head up to Central London..." or "...let's head up to Westminster..."

    [/platini wannabe]

    'Central' is also generally the preferred colloquial term among pretty much anyone under 35 in London to mean an area roughly equivalent with zone 1.

    The modern study of language also eschews prescriptivism in favour of a descriptivism. So there ;)

  • 'Central' is also generally the preferred colloquial term among pretty much anyone under 35 not native to but temporarily resident in London to mean an area roughly equivalent with zone 1.

    The modern study of language also eschews prescriptivism in favour of a descriptivism. So there ;)

    ftfy

  • Cuts. Deeply unpopular, but deeply necessary.

    The alternative is to raise taxation, but then taxable income elasticity, maximal rate of revenue, and a not fit for service HMRC come into play.

    I'll not be protesting.

    Cutting humanities funding by up to 100% hardly represents a rational or effective response to our current financial times, and amounts to a wholesale takeover of our culture by capitalism, not democratic process, which is what people protesting and yes, causing a limited amount of disruption to everyday life, are upholding.

    No one doubts that there are cuts to be made and sacrifices, but putting our heads down and letting politicians like clegg break concrete promises is no solution, and neither is permanently fucking up the higher education system by turning it into a debt generating conveyor belt that gives inadequate, expensive tuition.

    Surely a more positive thing to do would be to simplify the tax system, reform HMRC and seize assets/emergency tax those with outstanding tax debts, and also make cynical Tory peers either give their titles back and stand down from the house of Lords or move their businesses from offshore tax havens back to the UK?

  • The modern study of language also eschews prescriptivism in favour of a descriptivism. So there ;)

    Those bloody descriptivists are even unprescriptive enough to only require 'a' descriptivism, not 'the' descriptivism. ;)

  • Yes that was a typo, we all make misteaks. I was going to write 'a descriptivist approach' then changed my mind.

    I've definitely heard it from the natives Clive, the kind of natives who have probably never gone further than South Mimms. In fact, I would have said it was more common among natives so interesting you think it's the opposite. I should point out I'm speculating, I haven't conducted a study.

    Just got a text from Felix and he has been doing some good work down at Millbank =)

  • yeah, fucking A! :-) go students, you make me proud for once :)

  • Some fluffier pictures here:

  • oh the photographer just happened to capture some girls! It's like A-level results day all over again...

  • oh the photographer just happened to capture some girls! It's like A-level results day all over again...

    Not at my school it wasn't (horribly disappointed spotty boys in blazers as far as the eye could see)

  • we all make misteaks.

    Mmmmmmm. Misteaks.

  • Mmmmmmm. Mini-steaks.

    I'm cooking mini-steaks (ftfy) in about half an hours time, just fiddling with the Béarnaise sauce now.

    Police helicopter still overhead so have pulled the shutters tight, turned up Radio 3 and the central heating.

  • Bearnaise? mmm.

    cooking big fuckoff steaks now but gone down the caramelised red onion and mushroom in red wine sauce route-just waiting on the roasties....

  • ah man, I'm having frozen pizza :(

    I dont see what the problem is with raising tuition fees

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