Is wearing Lycra a bit gay...?

No poo, Pisti.

Eh? Stevie Nicks? Whaddaya mean? As someone with a penchant for the odd Fleetwood Mac binge I'm intrigued!

Bugel blown up the Gary

I don't think so, we call you breeders =)

or rather they do [/unconvincedbytheexistenceofagaycommunity]

I wouldn't really use it as it is kinda derogatory

Was 'straight' in the sexuality sense coined by the gay community?

Bugel blown up the Gary

ahhaha. never heard that one and a quick google later....

the led zep mud shark is pretty funny too. Rod Steward not so much. But all these folks are fond of lycra-maybe such spurious allegations just go with its sexy alternative nature.

...so it seems 'gay' was being used to describe a broader spectrum of people to begin with - those not leading 'respectable' (married) lifestyles. The respectable types were known as straight, so as the definition of 'gay' narrowed to become a descriptor for homosexuals, the definition of 'straight' followed accordingly to describe heterosexuals.

Just seen Fox's post. I despair of straight people, and will continue to be disparaging about them. It's synonomous with cultural and political blinkers, based on my own experiences - particularly growing up in a straight (but incredibly dysfunctional) household. I'm not discussing sexuality here

PS. 'community' in the more psychogeographical sense.

Auberon Waugh, who really was an unpleasant cove but an amusing one, was very insistent that one should not twist the English language and should refer to people who engaged in homosexual practices as homosexualists; homosexual being strictly an adjective and not a noun.

He also believed that women from SE Asia had no pubic hair and that Prince Charles was secretly married to Princess Marie-Astrid of Luxemburg.

I think his unpleasantness was much overrated, meself - he certainly wasn't a patch on his dad for beastliness. His autobiography is a firm fixture on my "re-read every couple of years" list.

His first novel "The Foxglove Saga" was wonderful stuff. His other two novels did not quite match it. I don't think he engaged in homosexual practices but his father certainly did.

The best story Auberon Waugh told of his father was about the day in 1945 when the war had ended and the government decreed that, in order to celebrate, every child should be allowed a banana. Most had not seen this fruit throughout rationing. The Waugh family were allocated a banana per child (four or five, I think) and the children called in to watch their father peel the bananas, place them in a bowl, mash them with a fork and then eat them.

Isn't "gay" a co-opted term in the first place?

A bit like 'queer'? Funny how the bigots (not you, Tissy) who complain about 'gay' changing its meaning never felt the same way about queer.
Having to put up with this idiotic and juvenile use of 'gay' as a derogatory term would be nothing more than an annoyance if that was as far as it went. But that isn't as far as it goes; gay men and women are still regularly assaulted and killed in Britain. Is it any wonder that hearing people who are supposedly liberal and tolerant and humane take up even the smallest space in this spectrum of denigration and contempt becomes so depressing?

Auberon Waugh, who really was an unpleasant cove but an amusing one, was very insistent that one should not twist the English language and should refer to people who engaged in homosexual practices as homosexualists; homosexual being strictly an adjective and not a noun.

He also believed that women from SE Asia had no pubic hair and that Prince Charles was secretly married to Princess Marie-Astrid of Luxemburg.

When his son Alexander, after splitting up with a girlfriend, annonced that he would never go out with a girl again - fearing that he may become homosexual, Auberon summoned him to his study and told him “My dear boy, the anus was designed for the retention and expulsion of faecal matter, not for the reception of foreign organs, however lovingly they may be placed there.”

Gore Vidal shits on Waugh. When he was asked if the first person he slept with was a man or a woman he replied "I was too polite to ask".
Alan Bennett, when he was asked about his sex life, said it had been "A bit of both, not enough of either".

Lycra is sexy.. sexy I tell you!!!!! SEXY SEXY!!! Anyway i'm a female so does wearing lycra make me lesbian??

As teenagers we used 'straight' to mean 'likes bad music and probably doesn't take drugs'. Callow bastard that I was.

Bastard, now, there you go. Its own shift in meaning means it retains an echo of when 'we' used to think that people born out of wedlock were bad people, but it didn't manage to control or sustain that association past its cultural/societal sell-by date, and is a useful marker of it in some ways.

Auberon Waugh was a total shit.

! Anyway i'm a female so does wearing lycra make me lesbian??

No, but this forum might.

like straight edge right?

As teenagers we used 'straight' to mean 'likes bad music and probably doesn't take drugs'. Callow bastard that I was.

hahahhahh love it!! I don't really know what to say to that! I'm still laughing! :D

No, but this forum might.

I take your point, but if you think this place is bad then you must be leading a very sheltered internet life, Will.

It gets a bit laddish here but compared to say the Cake Stop section over on Bikeradar, it's very tame.

Not that that makes it okay of course, as homophobia in any form is hateful.

for a performance fabric it certainly has a diversified fanbase.
http://www.spandex-party.com/
probably NSFW but the home page shouldn't offend.

I feel ill.

like straight edge right?

No, not really. More like square. A square edge. Like a protractor.

Yeahh Will!!! corr!!

It's ok Mr andyp I found Wills comment very funny and this is tamed? boring!!! I wanna see some blood and gore! ;) What makes you think I can't handle the laddish comments?

Spandex party hahahha see it answers the question... lycra is sexy :D

I take your point.

I was exaggerating for comic effect. I think it's just possible, looking back on some of my other posts, that I have done it before.
But, does Bike Radar laud itself as a great community? LFGSS being better than some dipshit collection of bores and cretins isn't much to boast about. What pisses me off, what really really fucking pisses me off, is that whenever I suggest that something is hateful or nasty I get people repping me and PMing me to say well done, they agree. But they don't fucking stand up and say it publicly. So the number of people who do get sick to death of some of the crap on here is never apparent. Then out come all the bloody cake and crumble pics and we're back to thinking everything is fine.
I don't need to say I like the forum, that I think there are many great and glorious sides to it. I'd have left if I didn't think that. But as a forum, as a whole, it is woeful at self criticism.
And, Andy, none of this applies to you.

lycra is sexy :D

Does that mean being sexy is gay?

It must be, I'm not sexy, I'm not gay so being sexy must be gay.