RLJ (Red Light Jumping). (The definitive bikeradar thread)

Every time i've stopped there since i've spoken to one of the ambushing plod about their motives for choosing that particular quiet, safe and temptingly slow-changing junction. Last time i raised the point the policeman there told me "I don't care, you should stop at every red light". Which, legally at least, i guess you can't argue with.

You can point out that they are there to enfore THE LAW, and so obviously they will not be turning a blid eye to ASL encroachment and mobile phone use and unfairly target only one group of road users over another. Perhaps stop a while to keep enforcing the point. Pretend to film them on your mobile maybe?

If all of us stopped to ask the first question and follow up with the second point, it might chivvy them into actually doing something about it.

I never get to see them, cos I skirt most of the hipster trails, working in deepest Surrey. Which always disappoints me when I see these threads.

tim, she was a foot out from the left hand kerb, walking along like a dozy cunt and she had never observed shit, as i had mentioned previously i was in the left hand lane as i had a left turn coming up

it was time to give her a fright, it was a light tap on the shoulder, but probably enough to scare the bejebus out of her

i am sure she will look around in future

I tend to go with "Please don't walk in the road, madam." or whatever the infringement is. Or even an "Oooo, careful!" when they step out as you fizz past.

Just the fact that someone she didn't know was even there had spoken to her would have scared her. And you remain polite, so they can't (shouldn't) get the arse. Nobody hurt/upset and point still made.

Did anyone else see the incredibly biased BBC news item on Boris's new traffic enforcement for cyclists and motorists?

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1.There was no mention of motorists being targeted whatsoever, and the item focussed on cyclists running red lights as the main theme. With focus being on a CRACKDOWN on cyclists in the city.

1. What shocked me the most and hopefully is a mistake, was that the ending of the piece went something like:
   "Cyclists will face hefty fines for running red lights, cycling on the pavement, and *not wearing a helme*t"
   
   

What!?

I seriously hope this is a fuck up and the law hasn't suddenly changed overnight. Anyone know anymore about this helmet reference? Is there a publication on the TFL website about this new traffic safety plan from Boris?

I want to make a complaint to the BBC if I find out its incorrect.

Just as an aside along the lines of this post ^^^^ a guy I got chatting to has a friend who got an on-the-spot for not wearing a hi-viz top at night. He did apparently have lights.

Recent immigrant with poor English. Bogus cop perhaps. Or just bent ones who reckon they could get away with it. I've asked the guy I was talking to to put me in touch with his mate for more details. Perhaps one of the cycling organisations might be interested.

Anyone else heard of something like this?

on RLJ. I have seen this lady around many times! She cracks us up. She asked me on clapham common if you'd get in trouble with the police if you killed a dog. I told her that I would be devastated if I killed a dog! She'd been shouting at people walking their dogs around the cycle path.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNe19LWnq2A&feature=related

that camera makes it look like you are ridiculously tall!!! i am more and more tempted to get one....

Did anyone else see the incredibly biased BBC news item on Boris's new traffic enforcement for cyclists and motorists?

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1.There was no mention of motorists being targeted whatsoever, and the item focussed on cyclists running red lights as the main theme. With focus being on a CRACKDOWN on cyclists in the city.

1. What shocked me the most and hopefully is a mistake, was that the ending of the piece went something like:
   "Cyclists will face hefty fines for running red lights, cycling on the pavement, and *not wearing a helme*t"
   
   

What!?

I seriously hope this is a fuck up and the law hasn't suddenly changed overnight. Anyone know anymore about this helmet reference? Is there a publication on the TFL website about this new traffic safety plan from Boris?

I want to make a complaint to the BBC if I find out its incorrect.

i thought it was unusually even handed actually. made the cyclist's argument for the ocasional tactical rlj several times and even started with a statement sympathising with that view. they spoke to some sensible cyclists and gave a pretty balanced overview of the whole affair i thought. i assume they didn't discuss cars because the new policy is specifically targetting cyclists. i have no issue with that.

i noticed the erroneous "not wearing a helmet" thing too. just a brain fart by the voice-over, script writer, whatever i'm sure. complain away though!

hahaha
I award this thread 4 stars -

I was chatting to a New York Cycle activist yesterday and one of the topics was police attitude to cyclists, friends of hers have had their bikes smashed, been detained in plastic cuffs, taken a beating... the job lot.
They are up there with terrorists in the eyes of the police, i think we have it good here, the police are on those junction because the powers that be told them, they told them because they have a box to tick to justify spend/head count/activity... whatever it is.

It isn't a personal attack on cyclists, i am pretty sure they don't want to stand by the road side and wave people on to take the abuse, i can't imagine thats the vision of policing they had in mind when they signed up all fresh faced and eager to serve..

but if you feel the need to mock them then go right ahead.. what ever floats your boat

Wrong!
I was unlocking my bike right next to where you went past her, I was watching her cross the road (as see had a nice figure). You Had 2 lanes at you disposal having but felt the need to ride right past her when she was less than 1 metre from the curb.

crank vs brooks mate....

According to PopBitch it looks like Rupert Everett got caught....

Rupert the beard <<
Everyone knows his name (and bike)
Ever seen a cyclist get in trouble for
running a red light in London? No, nor us.
So a rather beardy-looking Rupert Everett can
feel himself to be somewhat unlucky that it
happened to him this morning. And even more
unlucky for Rupert? It happened right outside
Heat magazine's office. Oops.
　

er...maybe im missing something...but does it really take 2 pages to discuss wether or not to comply with road traffic law?

seems the only justification is saving time...doesnt seem worth endangering yourself and/or pedestrians to shave a few seconds

if the situation was reversed and we were discussing a cyclist killed/injured by a car driver jumping a red i can just imagine the moral indignation....

No, it takes far more than 2 pages.. go read bikeradar for a while.

C'mon Mocker. You ARE missing something. We're discussing all sorts of things associated with this specific enforcement drive, and some derailing about peds. No one's actually getting into the RLJ 'debate', really. Thank fuck.

evening standard's website is that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>

haha! more of a Daily Mail man meself ;)
i guess i just aint hip enough...obviously nothing makes you cooller than sailing through a red narrowly avoiding peds/cars/buses...

Username "Troll" already taken?

haha! more of a Daily Mail man meself ;)
i guess i just aint hip enough...obviously nothing makes you cooller than sailing through a red narrowly avoiding peds/cars/buses...

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnggg

[biting tongue cos I know it's probably bloody RPM or Object.]

eh? just speaking my mind...why does that make me a troll?...true i dont post much on here, work tends to get in the way...
theres a lot of cocks riding bikes out there, see them everyday on my commute to work...cant see how jumping a red to save a few seconds helps anyone really....IMHO

Read the thread.

Almost everyone here seems to concur with that viewpoint.

I can feel an 'Almighty RLJ thread' and merge coming on..

Merge merge merge!

Well fuck me sideways there is one already..
http://www.lfgss.com/thread73.html

I cycled defensively, down chiswick high road the other day.....there were no survivors.....

:)

Since the 'operation' has passed and this is turning into an RLJ mass debate.. it's now here.

i'm bored of it now. i liked it better before.

detestable, well reasoned comment.

And where do you get off, coming in here and being all rational!?