Undertaking / filtering on left?

I do whatever I can to get home quickest. Within reason of course!

consider this: you might be a peadophile who simply hasnt met the right child yet.

there are clearly lots of paedos heading west most nights on the chelsea embankment...

Esther should be told

Hi guys, this maybe covered in other threads and I did try to search but to no success but I think the topic is probably worth it.

Whilst cycling home today the guy in front got nocked off, was fine and his bike repairable. The driver was also very apologetic and cooperative.

The cyclist was cycling down the inside of the cars between the pavement and stopped traffic (the usual position) past the holiday inn on old street. A bookable taxi turned right between a small gap in the stopped traffic down. He couldnt see the cyclist and like wise until it was to late. Both the cyclist and car were going at low speeds.

I have nearly found myself in similar positions but managing to stop. What the main point is I think that maybe that lots of people need to be a really careful when cycling down the inside past junctions. I do alot of time try to go down the live side of stopped traffic but this obviously brings other dangers.

I do understand that cars need to understand that cyclists could be going down the inside but sometimes I think we all take this for granted. Just a little note because I hope that no one on here is seriously injured in the same situation.

someone was telling me that if your overtaking on the curbside then its your fault if an accident occurs, but if your on the other side then it is the cars fault.
(in the eyes of the law/insurance)
could be wrong though

The cycling line on the nearside is well confusing then, isn't it?

http://www.lfgss.com/thread31307.html
OP please read this thread, consider taking some training.

Whats the deal if the inside is a cycle lane?

dont use cycle lanes

they teach you to feel safe in a situation where you are totally at risk

overtake on the outside, behave like real traffic and read the cycle training thread

oh and then get some cycle training

Highway code Rule 151 vs Rule 167

I dunno.

(to clarify, first rule is for cars, second one for cyclists)

someone was telling me that if your overtaking on the curbside then its your fault if an accident occurs,

As far as I am aware it's against the highway code for any vehicle to undertake (as it's called). Of course all cyclists do it, so you are unlikely to get in trouble for it.

Personally, I never undertake large vehicles. When it comes to cars I only undertake if I think I won't get stuck in the blind spot, otherwise I overtake.

no matter what side you are passing cars on always keep an eye out and speed down when passing side roads.

give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211-215)

This is the part I hate as a driver. When I try to give cyclist plenty of space there's always a twat on a moped who tries to overtake me at the same time and get too anxious.

Also, when DJ pointed out, that you should overtake cars as you were a driver not a cyclist, this also often poses risk of being mown down by a speeding motorbike, so look over your shoulder to make sure there's no organ donors behind you (if you manage to notice them at all).
There are some bikers who are far too relaxed about overtaking stationary traffic at high speed and then become surprised there's a cyclist in their way who popped out from between the cars (yes, I have had few exchanges with twats on Suzukis for some reason).
I also hold a motorcycle licence, but it doesn't give me the right of ploughing in the middle of the road when there's a traffic jam. You still have to observe the road and watch out for others.

I almost killed myself today at a roundabout ... was proper knackered and I tried pulling out with a car at a roundabout and almost got run over ... buy the car they were trying to get past quick ... lesson ... always fucking look and take your time if you are unsure.

or another cyclist, I've nearly been taken out before by a cyclist who was filtering up the inside then suddenly without looking decides to move to the outside.

yeah .. it was proper stupid of me .. I was trying to be macho and prove to the girl at work I knew my way around traffic .. macho fail and traffic fail and luckily for me the driver was driving sensibly... feel a bit bad about scaring the shit outta the driver...

Hopefully he's got more punnany. If not, he failed.

WTF ... that don't make any sense.

Because you edited your post. That's why :-)

I was talking about the guy driving the Lotus.

oops sorry lucas that was meant to follow EEI post.

Should we try again?

For those of us living in cities where hgvs and bendy buses are still tolerated undertaking, particularly at junctions/roundabouts, is scary beyond belief particularly when you factor in the inherent design flaw which leave these vehicles with massive blind spots.

Because you edited your post. That's why :-)

I was talking about the guy driving the Lotus.

oh .. he less likely to pull than me.

For those of us living in cities where hgvs and bendy buses are still tolerated undertaking, particularly at junctions/roundabouts, is scary beyond belief particularly when you factor in the inherent design flaw which leave these vehicles with massive blind spots.

vehicles are allowed to undertake in lanes of slow moving traffic, i.e. at junctions and roundabouts..

vehicles are allowed to undertake in lanes of slow moving traffic, i.e. at junctions and roundabouts..

what the law permits (eg undertaking, cycle lanes on the left) and what is actually advisable/safe are two very different things

filtering up to lights on the left hand side when traffic may be turning left (eg lights are red but you dont know when they are likely to turn green is inherently risky. this is much worse with trucks and long vehicles because there is actually a blindspot so they could be looking around quite diligently yet still miss you if you are approaching in their blindspot when they look at their left mirror.

generally if i know the lights and they have just turned red i will consider filtering on the left (also taking into account of the types of vehicles that I will be undertaking), but if i have not observed the sequence of lights i tend to filter on the right hand side because of the increased visibility

if you appreciate the levels of risk when entering a situation you will have better information with which to make a risk assessment