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  • mephedrone isn't made from khat, the khat just contains the active agent cathinone, which is related to the group of amphetamine compounds (ie, mephedrone). Mephedrone, as a compound, does not exist on its own, it has to be synthesised in a lab.

    Just read on the BBC that this will be made illegal from April 16th.

  • Question for economists.

    Do you still consider the word "data" to be a plural? Or are you moving with the times and using it as a singular? I'm proof-reading something (no laughing please) and it sounds weird as a plural to my young ears.

    Also, "media".

  • "datas"

  • "datii"

  • Data is always a plural really, it's used as a singular to describe a group, but that's kind of a plural right? It sounds good as plural.

    "The data clearly shows a trend... The data doe not support these conclusions..."

    I like

    data point is the only specific singular use, but it doesn't really matter. Why not reclaim datum.

  • Context is always "data", never "datum", but "data" is always used as a plural.

    E.g.:

    However, ISTAT data on agricultural production do not seem very reliable for the last quarter of the nineteenth century...

    Export trade data have been obtained...

    etc etc.

  • Data is always a plural really, it's used as a singular to describe a group, but that's kind of a plural right? It sounds good as plural.

    "The data clearly shows a trend... The data doe not support these conclusions..."

    I like

    data point is the only specific singular use, but it doesn't really matter. Why not reclaim datum.

    You're using it as a singular there.

  • "datas"

    "data's"

  • You're using it as a singular there.

    where? Never said I wasn't by the way. For the record. 412 B TRU 4 EVA

    "The data clearly shows a trend... The data doe not support these conclusions..."

    here data = plural. Ok now I am

  • A DBA in my office told a joke the other day:

    "A SQL Query is in a bar. He walks up to a couple of tables and says 'Can I join you?'"

    ...so I bled him behind the paper shredder.

  • oh i see. Yeah "do not". Der

  • Heisenberg is driving down a motorway and sees flashing blue lights in his mirror. So he pulls over. A cop walks up and knocks on his window. He winds it down.

    "Excuse me sir, but do you know how fast you've been driving?"

    Heisenberg replies "No officer, but I can tell you exactly where I am."

    Sorry.

  • "The ISTAT data do not seem reliable" might be considered more grammatically correct, but the other is correct too.

    I know! But I'm not sure if one or the other is standard usage in economics. I'm going to play it safe and leave it as it is.

  • I'd also say that it depends on the context. If you're talking about 'a set/amount of data', 'data' is often used as shorthand for that, and should either be expanded to the full phrase or used in the singular. If you're clearly talking about multiple items without a clear set-description being implicit, it should be in the plural.

  • Data is a singular used to describe a set volume of information. Datum is also a singular used to describe a single elemental factor of that volume of information.

    i.e That datum is inconsistent with the trend of the data.

    Data as a plural noun to describe multiple sets of information is pluralised the same way that sheep is.

    However, ISTAT data on agricultural production do not seem very reliable for the last quarter of the nineteenth century...
    This is still a singular noun by the way because it refers to one set volume of information and therefore should be does and not do.

  • I'd also say that it depends on the context. If you're talking about 'a set/amount of data', 'data' is often used as shorthand for that, and should either be expanded to the full phrase or used in the singular. If you're clearly talking about multiple items without a clear set-description being implicit, it should be in the plural.

    But what if you're talking about olive oil exports in the nineteenth century...? :)

    For better or worse, I think the current standard usage is that "data" and "media" are both singular. But I'm not sure whether economics still clings to the more prescriptive usage.

  • Same thing--are your data understood as comprised in a set, or are you talking about the individual items? In the previous sentence, I'm clearly talking about the individual data, for instance.

  • Just read on the BBC that this will be made illegal from April 16th.

    Bulk order!

  • Same thing--are your data understood as comprised in a set, or are you talking about the individual items? In the previous sentence, I'm clearly talking about the individual data, for instance.

    It doesn't matter which way you use it. Whatever way the brits choose the yanks will just flip it around, and we'll be back at square one.

  • Bulk order!

    lfgss 'farm'. we can use the fertilizer to grow weed faster!

  • hehe

  • What's the link to those lists/catalogs of bicycle brands... shit loads of new/old school brands, please?

  • How do I get my calculator to display answers in decimal format first instead of as fractions? I'm sure there is a way, but I can't be bothered with the manual. Its a Casio fx-9991ES by the way.

  • sorry absolutely no idea about that one^

    I wanted to ask, is the demise of the Glossy ......girls on Bikes thread partly responsible for the amount of female posters around here, or, was it the tweed run that got our beautiful sisters back on?

    either way its a really good thing :-)

  • How do I get my calculator to display answers in decimal format first instead of as fractions? I'm sure there is a way, but I can't be bothered with the manual. Its a Casio fx-9991ES by the way.

    fuck knows, just type in 55378008 instead for some childish amuzement

    *thats just the kind of comment that keeps the females interested in the forum....

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