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i think 7.5kg is a reasonable aim like a few people have said, without getting expensive... and i think that will 'feel' very light, and that a 6.5kg bike isnt going to feel massively lighter...although your wallet might be

If a steel Bob Jackson can be put together at under 7.5kg. I'd imagine a 500g lighter alu frame'd be no problem.

Just dont put deepVs or a chromo Brooks on it ;)

But you would feel the benefit of a lighter bike if you lost some weight first. I'm just going on my own experience. I had bmi of 34 a year ago and my bike was 25lbs in weight. So I was advised to lose some weight first then get a lighter bike later as I would feel the benefit then. My bmi is now 19. So I am now looking for a lighter bike or to make my current road bike lighter. On the other hand if it makes someone feel good to have the lightest bike in town then go for it. It wont make you any better up hills though.

Its the enjoyment of putting it together as much as the joy of riding it though.

I have finally settled on a plan for a set of road wheels. Nearly all the aspects planned to increase lateral stiffness, power transfer, aerodynamics, and lightness, will be undetectable to a hobby cyclist like myself. Still it was interesting planning them, it'll be satisfying to build them up, and it'll be fun to ride them.

Idiots like me keep the bike industry ticking over ;)

I had bmi of 34 a year ago My bmi is now 19.

thats some loss

and 19 is borderline underweight!?

Also, 'hillclimbing' wouldnt be the reason for the build, Gears are a good start for a wide range of gradients !

Small furry, ts a hobby for me too. I agree its the pleasure of building them aswell. I think you will see a diference with better wheels though.

Barber, most of my weight loss was diet but I am on a new drug for epilepsy and it causes weight loss so I am having to see my doctor about that.

No need to be BITTER about it lololol!!

I suppose it's just something which 'ale'd me. roflcopter!

But you would feel the benefit of a lighter bike if you lost some weight first. I'm just going on my own experience. I had bmi of 34 a year ago and my bike was 25lbs in weight. So I was advised to lose some weight first then get a lighter bike later as I would feel the benefit then. My bmi is now 19. So I am now looking for a lighter bike or to make my current road bike lighter. On the other hand if it makes someone feel good to have the lightest bike in town then go for it. It wont make you any better up hills though.

It will actually make you faster up hills (as would any reduction in weight anywhere). Just not enough to notice!

The nice thing about a light bike is the handling (direction changes, hopping over things etc,.).
Also, saving 4 kg on bike weight will feel noticeably different/better than saving 4 kg on body weight.

That video is brilliant, then weird, then terrifying, then mesmerising, then it was over and I didn't know what I'd been doing for 10 minutes.

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It will actually make you faster up hills (as would any reduction in weight anywhere). Just not enough to notice!

The nice thing about a light bike is the handling (direction changes, hopping over things etc,.).
Also, saving 4 kg on bike weight will feel noticeably different/better than saving 4 kg on body weight.

I ride in a club and have the heaviest bike. But I have proved that losing 26kgs makes more of a diference when climbing than any of my mates who have light carbon bikes with all the latest light weight groupsets and wheelsets. It really pisses some off when I go flying past them on my 25lb bike and they on an 15lb bike. And I can hop curbs better. So yes you will feel a slight diference in a light bike and most likely the good feel factor of riding a best bike. But dont kid yourselves that its better losing bike weight than body weight. I've been there, done that and worn the tee shirt. I'm buying some dura Ace wheels in two weeks so the boys can look out then cos I believe they are lightweight ha ha But enjoy

Yes, well losing 26kgs is clearly different!

What I am getting at is losing 4kg from a 8kg bike (theoretical) is halfing it's weight whereas losing 4kg from an 80kg person is not really going to be felt.

And if you raced against a person who was exactly your equal but riding a 15lb bike you would then be looking to reduce that 25lb bike to match theirs. Guessing you mates on their flashy bikes are just slow.

Yes, well losing 26kgs is clearly different!

What I am getting at is losing 4kg from a 8kg bike (theoretical) is halfing it's weight whereas losing 4kg from an 80kg person is not really going to be felt.

And if you raced against a person who was exactly your equal but riding a 15lb bike you would then be looking to reduce that 25lb bike to match theirs. Guessing you mates on their flashy bikes are just slow.

Point taken on the 4kg off a 8kg bike. Yes a huge diference there. Are you saying my mates are slowwwwwwww?? I thought it was because I was getting very fit and slim ha ha!

Brakes seem fine to me if thats what you're all getting at.

I've changed the levers for some proper 2 finger jobbies, so more powerful than the crappy mini levers they come with

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just get some sprints, they make a difference on hill climbs for sure, not convinced the full bike weight makes much difference...

Hi,

This is my first post. Been using this forum for the past week or two to decide which single speed to buy. It's my first ss & it'll be on the cycle scheme so wanna spend a bit extra now rather than later.

I was just wondering what the standard spec on the Bianchi Pista Via Brera is like. I want an OTP that has decent components & I've been looking at getting a Fuji Track, Langster Steel or Genesis flyer & upgrading the wheels, cranks & a few other bits but before I know it I'll have spent £700-800.

So, would it be a wise idea to just get a Bianchi Pista Via Brera which appears to have OK components? Or should I just ride a Langster/Fuji OTP & see where it gets me?

Any help would be much appreciated. Ta.

Hey Wblenkin, welcome and all.. Hmmm if i were to buy a new OTP i personally would go for a Steamroller Complete for £675 from Brixton cycles, maybe you might be able to find a complete bike for cheaper..

The steamroller wouldnt need much upgrades at all..

Hey Wblenkin, welcome and all.. Hmmm if i were to buy a new OTP i personally would go for a Steamroller Complete for £675 from Brixton cycles, maybe you might be able to find a complete bike for cheaper..

The steamroller wouldnt need much upgrades at all..

I' agree with KS, but accept that the Bianchi looks like the ultimate hipster bike and as such will win a lot of devotees and admiring glances, though perhaps not here.

The most interesting part of its spec is the novel Sram Torpedo hub, allowing fixed/freewheel switching without flipping the wheel - see discussion here

Hi kevinsays, thanks for the welcome.

Cheers, the Surly looks very nice. I'll stick that in the mix. The other option is to get a Potenza from Condor & choose some good kit when they build it up, I'm worried that might work out a bit too pricey though as the frameset is £400. Anyone had any experience building a Potenza up at Condor? I searched the forum but couldn't find much.