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• #652
I hadn't heard of it either untill mentioned on here, funny enough I thought of the SE Lager when I first saw it.
Also thought for £500 it does seem a little steep.
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• #653
P.s.
I've got a Charge Plug which I bought from someone on here and I'm more than happy with it.Strong frame can take a beating whatever I throw at it.
I will probably get some straight bars for it soon but It's such a nice ride.
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• #654
Some of the boys in my local racing club say you can buy cheap track bikes at Maindy velodrome in Newport that can be converted for the road. I'm sure other stadiums do the same thing. Not sure how much they sell for.
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• #655
1500 - 1600g is going to be the average weight for a cheap alu frame. That is why is will always be expensive to get to 6.5kg. Average weight of mid range components are around the following and that gives you 6.7kg. Going lighter on any of the below gets expensive.
Frame 1.5
Fork 0.5
Wheels 1.8
Cranks/bb 0.8
Bar/stem 0.5
Seat/post 0.4
Chain 0.3
Pedals 0.3
Tyres/tub 0.6This^ illustrates why people are willing to pay for items which give very little performance benefit, like lighter seatposts.
The best thing to do would be to drop 300g off the wheelset.
something like IRD cadence, laced 32 3x (rear), 28 (radial, 1x or whatever) front. with CX-rays to some lightweight hubs.390x2 + 260 + 500 = 1.5 Kg*
(*cant be bothered to calculate nips and tape)
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• #656
cheaper to lose body weight first then go for lighter bike.
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• #657
cheaper to lose body weight first then go for lighter bike.
That is missing the point of why people like light bikes.
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• #658
Because they cant afford cars.
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• #659
You can think your bike lighter.
It works DFP said so.
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• #660
Its not a case of a lighter bike but rather getting yourselves better components that respond better on the road or track. The biggest diference I have ever found on a bike is a wheel upgrade. Light but stiff which gives better handling and quicker reponsiveness. GReat for climbing aswell aswell. Then I would change the frame, then the cranks. Brake dont seem to make much diference in my opinion. Bars, yes and go for carbon as the stem. same with the seat post. But if you are over weight thats the still the best and cheapest lololol!!
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• #661
I have used leeches in the past, it works a treat. They just fall off once they have removed enough weight from the right areas. Cheaper than liposuction.
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• #662
Never tried Leeches Andy lmao!!
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• #663
I hadn't even heard of the Fuji Feather. But looking at it, apart from the bars and stem, it really does look like the SE Lager - also owned by Fuji? The four colour options make me think itr may sell well. Langster Steel shits all over it though.
What, in terms of looks? Gotta say I don't see much difference between this and the Langster frame-wise except for the chrome. Components seem to be of a similar quality too.
Doesn't look anything like the Lager to my eyes.
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• #664
Doesn't look anything like the Lager to my eyes.
No need to be BITTER about it lololol!!
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• #665
Please quit with the lololol bollocks. thanks.
;-)
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• #666
I have used leeches in the past, it works a treat. They just fall off once they have removed enough weight from the right areas. Cheaper than liposuction.
Full body chemical peel FTW, that skin shites heavy.*
(*not recommended before sunny rides)
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• #667
Nitromors?
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• #668
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• #669
Please quit with the lololol bollocks. thanks.
;-)
whys that Andy? Just trying to bring some friendly banter into the conversation.
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• #670
Just irks me.
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• #671
Fair enough Andy.
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• #672
cheaper to lose body weight first then go for lighter bike.
That is missing the point of why people like light bikes.
I'm aware of this, my bmi is 22 if that means anything, so no weight to be lost here thanks!!
...but yes, like kerley said, thats not the point. I want to do a lightweight build just because i find it satisfying to have a really light bike, i have a road bike and a steel track bike that i don't care (within reason) about the weight of... What would be the point in fretting over grams on my road bike when I carry 1.5L (1.5kg) of fluid in my water bottles for long rides
i think 7.5kg is a reasonable aim like a few people have said, without getting expensive... and i think that will 'feel' very light, and that a 6.5kg bike isnt going to feel massively lighter...although your wallet might be
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• #673
Because they cant afford cars.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Balki again.
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• #674
Nitromors?
Oh yeah*
(*diluted lemon juice if you're ginger)
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• #675
But you would feel the benefit of a lighter bike if you lost some weight first. I'm just going on my own experience. I had bmi of 34 a year ago and my bike was 25lbs in weight. So I was advised to lose some weight first then get a lighter bike later as I would feel the benefit then. My bmi is now 19. So I am now looking for a lighter bike or to make my current road bike lighter. On the other hand if it makes someone feel good to have the lightest bike in town then go for it. It wont make you any better up hills though.
I hadn't even heard of the Fuji Feather. But looking at it, apart from the bars and stem, it really does look like the SE Lager - also owned by Fuji? The four colour options make me think it may sell well. Langster Steel shits all over it though.