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• #25327
a friend of mine build up his custom bike at the moment and bought the phil carbon drive, fucking amazing
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• #25328
Looks sexy, if a bit heavy. The Gates chainring and sprocket have holes in them the stop shite clogging up the system. This was apparantly developed after previous designs showed it was needed. I wonder why the Phil rings dont have this. Are they hipster only?
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• #25329
look heavy as fuck though.
IMO if your that bothered about how smooth the drive surely it would be easier to just clean your chain often, rather than add a million kilos to the weight of your bike :)then again i've never ridden a belt drive, so ignore me...
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• #25330
Belt driver are lighter than chain drives
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• #25331
oh. how, may i ask?
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• #25332
Less metal. More carbon.
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• #25333
Fuck, did I really just post that?
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• #25334
i thought the chainrings were metal, or are they only the phil ones?
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• #25335
Just the Phil ones.
Maybe that's for the MTB crowd? Heavy as fuck by the look of it. It's not like the ones made by Gates aren't strong enough to do the job well.
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• #25336
doesn't carbon wear really quickly?
or does the belt massively reduce wear?
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• #25337
Even with Aluminium pulleys, which probably are a little heaver than roller chain sprockets, the huge reduction in weight by switching from a steel chain which weighs about 240-360g to a belt which weighs <100g more than compensates.
The belt consists of carbon fibre tension cords enclosed in a rubber outer casing.
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• #25338
aha.
well back on topic:
with a different saddle, bar tape, matching tires & possibly different levers = porn imo -
• #25339
pah, i'd do it in its current guise
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• #25340
I'd quite happily say that's already porn.
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• #25341
+1
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• #25342
nah, shorter saddle really is a must. the flite is to long. imo flite's only work well on top of lots of seatpost.
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• #25343
I can see where you're coming from but it looks fine, it's one of the most comfortable saddles and as well as matching the bike nicely aesthetically, it matches the era of the bike too.
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• #25344
Shame about the whopping dent :-(
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• #25345
doesn't carbon wear really quickly?
or does the belt massively reduce wear?
and just so i understand: is the belt made of rubber?all cars run a belt drive for the fan/radiator cooler. that will put in far more many miles than some guy on a bike.
they are not totally made of rubber, they're usually cloth embeded.
they are far lighter than a steel chain.
there is very little stretch. -
• #25346
Shame about the whopping dent :-(
Gives it character
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• #25347
english cycles again with his own lightweight project; seatstays like whut??
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• #25348
Weight rated?
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• #25349
gotta be NJS, they're made outa chop sticks
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• #25350
Weight rated?
Rob weighs nothing, should be fine for him.
No idea if anyone has posted this before, I rarely check this thread these days. But Phil Wood are making belt drive cogs and sprockets
http://www.philwood.com/products/new/