Brooklyn Machine Works

Why stupid?
Looks like a shite load of fun to me!

How does the back sus function? The frame looks rigid on the pic.

Yeah it looks fun, of course. Maybe stupid isn't the right word.

Silly?

I just don't think BMX's need suspension. Also I can't figure out how it works. Is it front sus too?

What is the point in it?

ok this makes a bit more sense:

it still seems unnecessary though.

The point is you can charge the fuck out of anything, go bigger, and be stupider

I for one would love to take it to the stteets and try and kill myslef off some stupid drops

The point is you can charge the fuck out of anything, go bigger, and be stupider

I for one would love to take it to the stteets and try and kill myslef off some stupid drops

That's where MTBs come in, with BMXs you want the rigidness! Unless the rider's a puff and can't deal with sore wrists.

ok this makes a bit more sense:

it still seems unnecessary though.

You could land some crazy jumps with the full sus aiding the landing.
Slip off on of the pedals though, and its goodbye shin skin.

You could land some crazy jumps with the full sus aiding the landing.
Slip off on of the pedals though, and its goodbye shin skin.

Like taking one of these to your shins basically.

Yeah, as mentioned, why not just get an MTB?

If ppl started building fixed wheel bikes with say... softride saddles you lot would probably have a field day. But there are definite advantages. But it'd look stupid and serve a limited purpose, just like this BMX does.

I dunno why I'm arguing, its like trying to make apple fanboys see that Apple has flaws like all other companies.

Yeah, as mentioned, why not just get an MTB?

If ppl started building fixed wheel bikes with say... softride saddles you lot would probably have a field day. But there are definite advantages. But it'd look stupid and serve a limited purpose, just like this BMX does.

I dunno why I'm arguing, its like trying to make apple fanboys see that Apple has flaws like all other companies.

No - I'd say you're right. The whole point of BMX for me was to be as smooth as possible, otherwise it hurt more! On top of that though, there's nothing like flowing through some trails or round a park (especially concrete), and I can't help feeling that suspension would hamper that.

If you're only going to be doing burly roof drops, fine, but I've never known anyone limit themselves to hucking off 10ft drops. It's like the people who buy snowboards that are full on built for powder - come on, you don't ride powder all the time, so get yourself something that works well in all conditions with a bit of trade off, rather than something that's useless 90% of the time.

i just think its a proof of concept as with alot of bmw products
they do it because they can
and they beleive as a proof of concept it is an excellent idea
there not saying that for every bmx application this is suited
but to someone who has the skill to use it
it will be perfect
i think id like to take it over dirt jumps more than anything

Well look at the rest of their bikes, and the size of 'production runs'. The only two sensible bikes in their stable are the gangsta and park bike. And they are the only two built in large numbers, the others are them having a laugh because they want to and can.

snap gogosama :)

Well look at the rest of their bikes, and the size of 'production runs'. The only two sensible bikes in their stable are the gangsta and park bike. And they are the only two built in large numbers, the others are them having a laugh because they want to and can.

i just think its a proof of concept as with alot of bmw products
they do it because they can
and they beleive as a proof of concept it is an excellent idea
there not saying that for every bmx application this is suited
but to someone who has the skill to use it
it will be perfect
i think id like to take it over dirt jumps more than anything

The two most sensible points here. Why should a bike have to serve any purpose other than to make the owner smile when they ride it?

Yes you could use a mountain bike for the same thing. Just like you could use a road bike to ride to work instead of your fixed or a cyclocross bike instead of an XC bike or a BMX for doing barspins instead of your fixed freestyler or...you get the fucking picture.

I love these bikes, the fact that they fit a niche is great. You want the fun of really small wheels and a little frame for street and park riding combined with suspension for smoothing out big hucks. I recon they would be a blast on a mountain bike freeride trail and a blast on a big slope style course, as long as you were one of those lucky blokes who bounces back up from a crash with no injuries. I don't bounce well enough to dirt jump and freeride :(

Have you ever drank Baileys from a shoe?

Strangely enough yes. Weekend before last at a party.

I think we'll have to agree its a Marmite bike.

I love marmite. And the bike

I hate Marmite and, guess what...?

I like Vegemite and I would like to commute to work on that full sus bmx :)
If only I had the skill to jump it over all the Lamb Rovers, Ex5s, Rangey Rovers, etc on the way in..

I love commuting on my BMX. Takes a while but it's fun.

I love commuting on my BMX. Takes a while but it's fun.

Did that for a summer when I lived in South Eailing. About 5 - 6 miles is the limit though I reckon. Any further is just sadomasochistic.

I love commuting on my BMX. Takes a while but it's fun.

you've made me slightly jealous. I want to jump stuff.

i used to commute about 9 miles to slough, from hayes when i first started work. used to be a right bugger.

Put your jumper on the floor and get busy.

Did that for a summer when I lived in South Eailing. About 5 - 6 miles is the limit though I reckon. Any further is just sadomasochistic.
Ha, says it all. My commute it 8 miles each way.

Ridden a BMW for less than a week (still riding it).

weight, unimportant, the geometry make all the difference, amazingly stiff (especially when accelerating), handle surprisingly like a track bike, I'd probably claim it to be stiffer than alu even, it's not that heavy too, even thought the one I'm trying out have velocity + hi-flange phils, a touch heavier than my Bianchi.

It feel very encouraging to ride, it's a perfect example where geometry make the difference in riding than the weight of the tubing, you hardly feel the weight.

It's very comfortable to ride which threw me off a bit, BMW just tick the right box, the geometry is simply perfect, exactly how a fixed wheel bicycle should ride, I can easily see why Scott rode his to Dunwich and back.

I'm feeling more compelled to get it, once as soon as I get rid of the unnecessary nicpick that my bike should be a traditonal geo lugged bike with quill stem and all the bell and whistle.