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I used to be amazed by how many people at our local trail centre ride in mtb trousers and waterproof mtb trousers. It tends to be more the downhill riders who bomb down a trail and then ride or push up the push track, stand around and regather their breath and thoughts and then bomb back down.
@youramericanlover as such the above people aren’t riding continuously and i guess don’t want to get cold and wet while waiting in line to ride back down the hill.
I was pretty sceptical about them until I bought a pair that are in my car for days when I arrive at trails and the heavens open. It’s good to be able to get changed post ride and not be covering clothes or the car in wet mud. Also they breathe well enough to do a couple of hours of trail riding.
@ltc no worried though if you did want to drop in and take a look, just ask!
@youramericanlover a general use-case is probably 'I have no choice*' like ultra/touring/commuting, rather than 'I'm going for a ride in this rain'. Ease-of-use on/off has been paramount, many overtrousers are a faff to use (and look terrible), so I'm optimistic we've got something here, be interesting to see if they become adopted like in MTB. Definitely changed my headspace for commutes in the rain on my big town bike, no change of clothes or wet jeans.
*unless wearing as off-bike gorpcore/gnarwear.
@tyeness one length I'm afraid, but design allows a wide range of fit. Waist has a huge amount of adjustment to fit over layers, also allow easy on/off, and also secure tightly and not drop down! Ankles have elasticated rear/gather to pull away from chain/crank rub, and also fit over over-shoes/boots etc.
It's an issue with seam-seal garments, lack of alteration/adjustability, but I might hack some for riders with sizing outside the fit ...myself included.....
@tb55 @LukeG yes, and seamlessly into the pub after :D
@Jameo they're going well so far. You have to bear in mind the differential between inside/outside environments will define how 'breathable' a fabric is - and how that is perceived by the wearer. Legs are going to be generating less sweat/heat than torso/arms, but I'm sure if you wore on a humid summers day you'd feel it. And absolutely, 'always get physics on your side'.
We had a rider wearing a sample on the Tour Divide, just infront of the really bad weather, and was one bit of kit which allowed them to ride in relative comfort through the high, cold, wet points. Gave some good feedback into the final design sign-off.