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RonnieOatmilk
@6pt you've unmasked the real target demographic!
@spinnnout errrr everything? Technically overtrouser, due to no pockets, but they have a zip entry to access trouser/pocket bib pocket underneath ...but Jack here has been wearing them everywhere as a regular trouser, studio, commuting, home, and sofa....
@monkdagola trying to keep these as packable as possible, they don't have a gusset inside, just the zipper to taper the leg and keep away from chain & spray. There's an elasticated cuff on the back only, to fit over overshoes/whatever, so there is also room for pedaling and movement. For years we tried to make a trouser version of the Classic Softshell (RIP), but it was always designed flat on a screen and never translated well into the 3D, dynamic shape needed for cycling, hence being pleased with how these have turned out.
@snoops I deleted a link to Rainlegs from my earlier post! Absolutely rate them as a good solution, but yes, bit clunky.
@dancing james following on from above, thinking the packable/off/on way these will be used, they have a contoured high centre back with elasticated gripper, which overlaps with the Rain Jacket, and sheds some weight. Can totally see the benefit of salopettes if you're out all day on muddy trails - maybe if they're successful, can see this variant to go with the shorts.