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• #72377
Substituting and combining spoken words is definitely a thing.
It absolutely is and is something that almost everyone does but it has nothing to do with dyslexia.
Dyslexia effects someone's ability to read and write, not their ability to speak coherently or avoid combining words. It has been a long time since I was diagnosed, so the method of evaluation may have changed slightly. In essence a diagnosis comes after several sessions with an educational psychologist who evaluates your verbal and written IQ. Some discrepancy between between these two scores is normal but a significant difference forms the basis of the diagnosis and goes some way to quantifying the severity of the condition.
Most people who have dyslexia are acutely aware of how the condition presents in them. In my case, for example, the speed at which I read and write is very slow as I taught myself to triple check everything as I go, a product of my dyslexia not being diagnosed until I was well into my 20s and developing my own coping techniques.
It's possible that she misread an Autocue but I think this is unlikely, as a government minister she will have aides to brief her before making an appearance such as this. If she were dyslexic I would be astounded if these aides did not know exactly how her disability presented itself to avoid situations like this. Lastly she would be aware of such problems herself and would have strategies to cope with it.
Is it possible she's dyslexic? Yes but it far more likely the thick cunt made an arse out of herself and doubled down by thinking this would explain things away.
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• #72378
When I see that someone has said "downstream" and "tennis pitches" it just seems so utterly minor and innocuous. Honestly I don't get how it's considered a gaffe let alone indicative of 'stupidity', ok downstream is ambiguous if you're trying to talk specifically about streaming vs downloading, but tennis pitches? Would barely occur to me it's not the correct name for the thing you play tennis on.
Also, I've been told to make a pretty wide range of allowances for people with dyslexia including organisation of tasks and time.
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• #72379
I don't really get that people are piling on Dorries for the words she uses rather than the sentiments she expresses.
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• #72380
^This x 100
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• #72381
I think there should be that balance, but i am not sure there is… too many Tories seem to either (i) believe they need some kind of magic ‘character’, or (ii) are too enthralled to the ideology to contemplate anyone who hasn’t drunk the kool aid. (Made worse by the perception that May wasn’t a true believer, I think).
Obv I don’t know how it will pan out either but would be very surprised if it was Hunt. Wallace or Mourdant maybe?
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• #72382
Oh look, man cannot use a Land Rover for school run because of chip shortage. What if chips in cars stopped working? You can make your own EMP device but apparently it wouldn't do the job.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/18364005/school-run-rain-land-rover-37000-cars-delay/
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• #72383
It absolutely is and is something that almost everyone does but it has nothing to do with dyslexia
I'm told this is one of the ways that my dyslexia manifests, so it may be different for others as well.
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• #72384
The Westwood stuff was publicised widely in 2020 and nothing happened so no idea what’s changed
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/tim-westwood-global-media_uk_5ef4b06fc5b615e5cd3a1ce3
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• #72385
I think he denied it and the BBC doco is the next stage of it, with actual people rather than "rumours"
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• #72386
You’re absolutely right, @Bobbo is using a very outdated definition of dyslexia that was probably the dominant uncontested definition at the time of diagnosis. It’s widely accepted to be about more than just reading and writing these days and extends to a wide range of attributes associated with short term memory and information processing. There’s a really good summary here: https://assets.cambridge.org/97813165/17000/excerpt/9781316517000_excerpt.pdf
I’d suggest skipping to page 7 before reading from the start, then clicking the link at the top of the page and buying the whole book. If you could stretch to getting the hardback version that would really help with the wife’s finances. -
• #72387
Mate a book like that would take me a year to read!
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• #72388
I scan read a few pages and it’s interesting. If someone was subjected to spelling words as they sound at school, as part of a pilot program 40 years ago, and the program was dropped because it failed, could they now think they are dyslexic?
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• #72389
The Westwood stuff was publicised widely in 2020 and nothing happened so no idea what’s changed
I wondered the same. Apparently in 2020 the accusations were anonymous.
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• #72390
Hard to say, I’m no expert. There’s online screening and plenty of organisations will do preliminary screening if you are curious.
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• #72391
Every day's a school day. Thank you (well actually your wife) for updating my knowledge, can't imagine I'll get much past the summary though.
I still think that it's more likely Nadine Dorris is using dyslexia to try and iron over the fact she made a tit out of herself.
I employ a special version of Hanlon's Razor when looking at anything a member of the parliamentary conservative party does:
Never attribute to any other motive that which can be adequately explained by the fact they are a Tory and therefore a cunt.
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• #72392
Thanks. I realise I’m asking a rather specific question.
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• #72393
We actually have the threat (or at leat the sabre rattling) of nuclear war and yet we give a green fuck about a Mrs Malaprop from Nadine?
This is why Brexit happened. Everyone was distracted by minutiae and didn’t bother to actually vote.
Fuck me, this pisses me off.
(Not apologising for her by the way, happy to see her fall down an open manhole cover Norman Wisdom style)
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• #72394
I don't think this is actually about being distracted by minutiae tbh. The laughter over that video isn't just about laughing about the idiot, it's coming from genuine concern over the incompetence of the cabinet. An expression of awkward laughter because it's better than being furious.
Paliamentary standards is probably in the top three of our problems as a nation right now. Imo they aren't laughing at her so much as nervously laughing at the whole shitshow.
Things that do well on social media are just that. Social media is not real life. But sure, it's easy to dismiss it as people just laughing at the least bad problem. I don't see it like that.
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• #72396
Brilliant.
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• #72397
Quite the campaign leaflet!
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• #72398
I know it won't happen but I'd love it if that was what every local councillor running as "Local Conservatives" rather than "Conservatives" was planning on doing. Internal sabotage and back-stabbing of the highest order.
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• #72399
I would like to imagine that Alan has a conscience and hasn't just fallen out with some of the other Tories and is doing this out of spite. But I can't.
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• #72400
Green belt and unnecessary housing might give you a hint.
Let's hope so. But I have recently experienced a lot of digging-in from Brexit voters in various settings that indicates it hasn't really gone away.