Weight / Fat loss

I bought this lot and worked out at home three times a week, to a plan that was put together by a PT friend. Said friend also modified the nutrition plan to include a lot more calories, which saw my weight go up before a final cut prior to returning to Roar.

If I'd stuck to the Roar nutrition plan (around 2,300 calories per day for me) I'd have continued losing weight at a kg per week for those 16 weeks (if things continued linearly) which would have dropped me to 56kg, and would have looked quite different in the final photograph.

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Roar nutrition plan

So, to clarify, you paid £3500, bought your own weights, had someone else design a workout plan and ended up modifying Roar's plan anyway?

I unsubbed from this thread a while back so almost certainly missed details but what did Roar actually do for their money? Measurements and the initial diet plan? Or did they lock you in a room for 6 months so you couldn't snack?

But the room was made from bricks of whey, held together by healthy omega fatty acids, so in the process of eating his way out, got hench.

I spent £3500 on beer during lockdown. Weigh the same, produce the same power.

36 hours of time with a dedicated personal trainer, four sessions with the nutrition person, access to a well fitted out members only gym, and (in theory, but this wasn’t actually true) a plan designed to achieve your goals in 12 weeks.

Ok, that sounds a lot more reasonable compared to what I've paid in the past. It stings when you write it in a lump sum. :S

Do you have to ride up as well as down in Enduro? I thought it was considered a gravity event so you'd be trying to add (protection) bulk. Or was this purely mid-life health crisis :)

I’m 44- need to add lean mass as fast as I can as a hedge against the effects of ageing.

Plus I wanted to fit into my jeans again.

I’m 44- need to add lean mass as fast as I can as a hedge against the effects of ageing

This resonates with me. I've just been diagnosed with a form of arthritis in my neck aged 39 and the key to keeping it in check is lean mass. Same story for my floppy middle aged rotator cuff.

Edit: Same for my ACL tear...all about lean mass to stabilise the joints. Man, I'm a fucking wreck.

That’s approx 385000 calories of beer to burn, so staying the same weight is some achievement!

385000 calories of beer to burn

385,000 calories of beer,

And if one of those calories of beer is burned,

There'll be

384,999 calories of beer to burn

I chuckled.

Please show working.

Actually just had a look at WKO and that's not actually a problematic number.
I burned through well over that in a year on the bike and that was last year which was probably lowest volume year in ages.

1750 pints at approx £2 per pint.
Approx. 220 calories per pint, so 385000 calories.

You can get Stella cans at approx £1 per pint so that would be an even more impressive 770000 calories of beer to burn.
Which is 770 hours of sweet spot (1000cals an hour).

Obviously it’s not such an issue if the beer calories for within your regular energy requirements.
£3500 of beer on top of your maintenance intake is a rather horrifying 50kg of fat gain. And 100kg on the cheap Stella.

(3500 calories per lb of fat)

Yeah, but my beers tend to cost £5-10 per pint so actually £3500 of beer is potentially a lot less kcal. I should really look at last year's bank statements and see how much I did actually spend.

Its an interesting thought though. One 330ml can of beer per day over the course of a year works out at about 7.5kg of fat worth of calories. Based on 150 calories per can, which is what a fancy IPA packs now days.

A good friend of mine is struggling to shift his weight but has a can of beer and small bag of nuts "as a treat" after work every day.

A good friend of mine is struggling to shift his weight but has a can of beer and small bag of nuts "as a treat" after work every day.

Yeah Imy friend will recognise this.

Have you mentioned that? I stopped drinking for a month and lost maybe 5kg.
It sucks though. I'd rather be 5kg heavier and able to drink - which is where I'm at now.

Maybe I could find another hobby...

A 90g bag of cashews is 500 calories- or two (of my) dinners, put another way.

Nuts is a strange one, because nuts are 'healthy' but have loads of calories.
100g of macadamia nuts is over 700 calories, maybe more than the calories in a whole meal, so with a beer, might be having a 800-900 calorie snack daily on top of everything else.

Probably not as satisfying, but replacing with a fairly large quantity of fruit (but not juice) would save 500 calories a day, which by itself is the standard recommendation of calorie deficit you should be having daily.

Cutting out a packet of crisps, not having a couple of biscuits with coffee, and going for americano instead of a latte would have a similar calorie deficit.

Or skipping dessert.

Not rocket science, but extremely difficult to break a snack or dessert habit.

Have you mentioned that?

No, not yet. Its a little sensitive as he also has gout so I think his drinking might be a little more problematic than he realises. He's taking steps in the right direction. I don't want to put any more pressure on him than he currently has.

I don't think its a coincidence that my biggest weight loss has come after 18 months of reducing my alcohol intake by 90%+. Even though I wasn't a regular drinker, it all adds up.

Another hobby that would fairly easily burn 300000 calories of beer?
Maybe best to stay on the bike, and continue to drink beer.

I meant a hobby to replace the drinking.
I hear heroin is good for turning off the noise in one's brain and users do end up quite skinny.

Not rocket science, but extremely difficult to break a snack or dessert habit.

Tru dat.

My weight gain is easily explained - a diet with lots of high calorie snacky treats, and injury / lockdown putting paid to exercise.

I could easily have 2,000+ calories in a day that were crisps, chocolate, biscuits and (0%) beer.

Fine when I can pop out for a 10 mile run, not so fine when I'm sat at a desk from 8am to 8pm.

Dropping the crisps, chocolate & biscuits has been straightforward, if a little less fun.