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  • sgss ... splitters

  • Isn't PHE only 6 or 7 years old?

  • No idea.

    Edit: 7 years old.

  • Says something when their list of available candidates is one failure.

  • It's annoying because :
    As an organisation we went through a big reorganisation already, we made plans that our analytical capacity was available across each of the 5 key areas and that better warehousing and skills were distributed.
    The basics of health Protection have stayed the same, just fewer people/less budget. Health protection works best when you work with your local authority. When you're not sharing data and the local authority doesn't have capacity to trace, well. It's made even more difficult.
    The point about testing capacity, well, path labs got closed down and the service is run in hospitals by hospitals/private companies. In addition, tests have to be validated and there wasn't enough capacity on house I'm guessing.
    And then finally, we were supposed to be moving to Harlow soon. Taking over a site that glaxo ran. With better facilities and more space for the national infection service and also the people from porton.
    Harlow council will be pissed off about this.

  • In short, hahahaha yeah, it's a bit of a pisser.
    An organisation that's good, but has been poorly funded, is being shat on. If any of the warehousing data and managing big data actually gets off the ground it'll be amazing. Because taking data from several different NHS organisations and private labs, and I'm just talking about hospital test data here, and all the data governance that goes with that will probably have to be restarted. So the prospect of having a huge data source linked to NHS records etc seems to maybe have got further away. Again.
    And the prospect of a case management system that is in date and relevant and capable of displaying linkages and showing outbreaks better has probably got further away too.

  • This is before I start thinking about this on a selfish level and wondering what the fuck this will mean when I come off secondment.

  • Isn't this just politics in a nutshell? Don't take the blame - pass the buck and better still completely reorganise the whole shebang so you get a free pass for a period where you can get away with saying that something is just bedding in.

    The basics of health Protection have stayed the same

    Absolutely. But the politicians always talk like they're reinventing the fucking wheel. Nobody holds them to account and nobody in the media seems to question the motives.

  • I feel for you @Chalfie. It's a shit situation and I hope you come out of it ok.

  • Just went back to double check my statement about Public Health England having it's funding cut by nearly 50% in the last ten years. Clearly not possible as @aggi correctly pointed out, given that PHE has only existed for 7.

    I was inadvertently confusing this with the fact that Public Health spending has been reduced by 44% overall since 2010. 2010 being the year that the intention to create PHE was announced and the initial restructuring to create it began. The closest figure I can find for actual PHE cuts is 25% since 2015.

  • Don't hate the player, hate the game. And if the player screws up dismantle the whole game and claim it never worked right in the first place.

  • Which is totally understandable in "let's cut the furlough scheme, and vague noises about a new economy" UK, hope you find something.

    And sorry to hear about the mess, work is not always "just work" either.

  • Thanks, I think it'll be fine. Just a lot of flux and chaos.
    "Let's break things fast!'

  • sgss ... splitters

    The only people we hate more than cabbies are the fucking SGSS.

  • Won't this mean you get to re-write all the spreadsheets for someone else and keep you deep in data for years to come?

  • Ha.
    Spreadsheets.
    This is actually how data is being shared.

  • Man who put metal shards in Tesco baby food turns out to be former Tory councillor and then a UKIP parliamentary candidate.

    As a Tory he campaigned to "reduce crime and the fear of it"...

  • @rpm gets around doesn’t he

  • Thought this was WTF thread for a sec!
    WAC!

  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53891104

    Two years and eight months for ploughing head-on into a group of cyclists while off his tits.

    His defence barrister wanted to court to know he was sorry. Of course.

  • Not sure whether more epic fail but among the nominations for MP of the year are gavin williamson and Mark francois.

  • He was banned from driving for 3 years. So does that mean that 4 months after leaving prison he can drive again? Crazy!

  • Usually the ban starts after the prison sentence ends. The disqualified driver would normally have to resit their driving theory test and then pass an extended driving test to regain their license. These are both at the discretion of the court though so you'd have to read the senteing remarks rather than a newspaper summary to find out.

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