GPS tech (Garmin, Hammerhead, Wahoo, RWGPS, etc)

I don't think you have a recalc the route option on the phone. You can make the app draw a route to you to some given address (it automatically syncs it to the device) but it's pretty shit in that regard. To do a proper route you'd have to whip up Komoot / RWGPS (the mobile apps...) and make the updated route there and sync that (which involves tethering the phone) and it all needs decent connectivity too, especially if you have lots of routes in various services like I do, as the 3rd party "Sync" option will sync each and every one and it's kind of slow even with good home broadband. So rather than all the fiddling roadside I always opted for a quick zoom-out and find my way to the route that way, of course as mentioned above that might be pretty hard in city traffic with all the no-go zones and one ways.

I'd go for the Roam for the auto-routing, but if the budget is limited the Bolt is livable with (would be PITA in an unknown urban env). The maintenance closures/diversions aren't a problem with the Roam as you miss the route it will keep recalculating and give you the next alternative.

Thanks for the in-depth explanation, I think the Roam is the one to go for, just means a bit more saving. The navigation on the bolt just doesn't seem as convenient as it should be, even if it is a nice little head unit.
Cheers

Do I need RideWithGPS pro / premium version to sync routes with a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt?

No.

https://ridewithgps.com/news/4859-introducing-popularity-influenced-routin?otu=

Well, that is far less exciting than anticipated.
People (me) were expecting some sort of heatmap feature, but it appears the "popularity" is simply to remove the shitty routing niches you get sometimes.

That is kinda neat though. For years I've just used Route for cars (because fat) because I don't want to detour onto piddling little roads and stuff. But since I'm now actively trying to avoid cars when dragging the missus out, trying to keep everything more pleasant, it's a pain to have to fix all the little wobbles you get when routing for bikes. Hopefully this smooths some of that out.

Fenix 6 Pro or Forerunner 945?

If you are going to take it out "adventuring" then Fenix 6, if not then 945. The Fenix is stainless steel where the 945 is plastic, so feels quite a lot heavier and will take more of a beating.

The saphire face on the Fenix 6 is probably worth it if the watch is set for a rough life.

The saphire face on the Fenix 6 pro is probably worth it if the watch is set for a rough life.

I always get a gorilla glass screen protector for the watch anyway. It's saved the face of my old 935 several times and I bumped my 945 on a lamp post the other week and there's a huge scratch in the protective glass (must order another to replace it).

Even if I got something like a Fenix 6 Pro I'd still put a protective screen on it.

Am I right in thinking that they're basically identical internally?

Is the marker at the bottom meant to move along the yellow gradient as I progress up a climb? It seemed stuck on this position the other day.

And while I'm at it, is there any way to make the climb pro screen bugger of after a few seconds? I like to see what's the climb is like ahead, but I'd rather see that I'm still on course.

1 Attachment

I turned that ClimbPro bullshit off. I'd rather know where I'm supposed to turn than see what gradient is coming.

There's the full screen, which is nice to see how the climb pans out, but then I want it to go away and back to the map. Then there's this little yellow thing, which could be helpful too, if it actually worked.

The only times I've used it I've just switched between the ClimbPro screen to the other ones as needed.

Yeah, I know. Climb Pro has been disabled a while. The new mini-profile thing was more recently added. I disabled that too because I want to see the whole map.

I have a screen of the profile anyway so the climbpro thing doesn't add anything.

Almost exactly if I remember correctly

Could the profile be moving while the “you are here” marker stays still?

I think @dbr is correct. I'm a bit unclear what the scale is, but don't think it changes based on map zoom. Maybe it's always 1km or 1 mile of elevation?

Yeah it's consistent from my experience. As I said, I've only found climb pro useful on routes where I've no idea about the climbs because I'm somewhere new rather than stuff locally.

I have a wahoo bolt but ditched the elevation graphic, there’s no scale so it’s pretty useless.

I think on the Garmin the colour changes depending on steepness (on the mini elevation pane that is - the main elevation view + ClimbPro ones work differently of course). But it's as poorly documented as ever.

There’s all sorts of icons on the climb pro and on the segment chaser that are not documented.

That was the main use for me, how much vertical and distance to go and the steepness coming up.

That's how their older 'full screen' profile thing works. It took about 3 TCRs before it made sense...