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• #177
^ applause
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• #178
Yeah, unfortunately telling us we can't do anything doesn't really help. No shit government needs to sort it out but they won't because they're in the pocket of all the big business that's fucking us up. My Greens vote counts for 0.0001% of people in my borough so what else? Lobby government? I've got work to do.
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• #179
Plant trees, oddly popped up on fb just now
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• #180
the modern highly unjust, hypermobile, high-consumption, animal-torturing, corpse-consuming lifestyle
More time to reply now. The problem with ^ is that it is too far gone to see any other way of turning it around short of the mass collapse scenarios folk fear.
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• #181
Whilst I agree with what you're saying in the first two paragraphs in the third I have to take issue with you.
The protests you deride have put issues in the media, and on the political table. Not much progress would have been made without the civil disobedience we've seen over the last year. -
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In 12 years our leaders will be here:
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• #183
Nah I wasn't saying it wouldn't be nice for this thread to be more active and share nice things, and I wasn't just saying utfs. It was really just refuting specifically the idea that if it's not being posted in this thread in particular it's an indication that people don't care. Cos that would be a false inference.
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• #184
Typical, I'm not in the country.
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• #185
surely a basic premise is not buying shit you don't need, replace things when they break, buy things when they wear out, buy things when you really need them or you really can't do without
but don't just consume for the sake of consuming, otherwise you are just fuelling capitalism and it's enduring legacy*except bikes of course
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• #186
Fix things when they break...
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• #187
well of course
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The wave of posts in here was heartening.
Is anybody joining XR’s international rebellion in London from next Monday?
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• #190
Love to. Garmin want me to buy a £200 replacement unit for a failed rubber button on an Edge 1000. Jokers.
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• #191
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• #192
Biro™
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• #193
There are some DIY fixes out there but typically involve a 3D printer and aren't so waterproof. If they sold spare parts I'd be away. I'm just leaving it for turbo use until it dies totally.
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• #194
Time, isn't it? Do I want to give up my sofa time to go and lobby my council? Wouldn't even know where to start and I've got other shit to deal with. Like most everyone else I'm a twitter-generation complainer. I do get stuck into cycling facility consultations but they're prepared by someone else.
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• #195
I’m suggesting that, if you did feel impelled to give up sofa time or money, that article advises how best to focus one’s efforts (although it predates the successes of XR)
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• #196
stuff like this is very important too
eat responsibly, tuna is being very overfished also
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• #197
turning the shower off when you could happily luxuriate in there for another 5 mins
thats real dedication to the planet
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• #198
turning the shower off when you could happily luxuriate in there for another 5 mins
Out.
The planet can burn.
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• #199
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/science-environment-49997755
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Ta.
The idea that individual action will make any meaningful difference is fanciful. I mean, I try to do my bit, too, but the modern highly unjust, hypermobile, high-consumption, animal-torturing, corpse-consuming lifestyle can only be successfully addressed by concerted political action. In the world of transport, most flying needs to be banned, motorways need to be replaced by railway lines, many roads removed, and towns and other places reorganised to ensure people can do and get most things locally. As I keep saying ad nauseam, for instance, London has a ridiculously over-concentrated centre and vastly excessive transport emissions despite the very high modal share of public transport, because people have to and want to travel very far around London every day.
Other areas are similar in the radical action needed--corpse-eating needs to be curtailed as much as possible (I'm under no illusions that it can be stopped entirely), large areas need to be 're-wilded' so that animals can actually live there rather than being shot at for profit, etc. The standard of living of people all around the world needs to be raised, but in such a way as to ensure 'developing' countries don't make all the mistakes the 'West' has made in adopting nonsense concocted by science fiction writers in the 20th century as desirable ways of living. Increasing equality and justice around the world is also the only way in which human populations can develop sustainably.
Obviously, all of this is fanciful. While some people are having their little protests and bask in the media attention, the vast majority of people aspire to things they don't have, try to participate more in the economy, and try to increase their status by embracing hypermobility and other unsustainable practices, because they're not as privileged as the chattering classes leading the protests, and they try to do what they've been shown is the way to success. I don't blame them. Until the remedy is 'we need to change our system of shared values' instead of 'give this up, give that up' there won't be a swing towards positive change at all.