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£170 for the xcover.
£214 for the a5.

a5 is better but xcover probably more robust.

The A5 is 4 years old - what version Android is on it?

"Android 4.4.4 (KitKat), 6.0.1 (Marshmallow), planned upgrade to 7.0 (Nougat)"

I'm reading A5 has "Non-removable Li-Ion 2300 mAh battery" which is less than XCover.

Are there 2 versions of a5?

https://www.samsung.com/it/smartphones/galaxy-a5-2017-a520/SM-A520FZKAITV/

There's about 4 versions. 2016, 2017, a dual sim and something else. Perhaps I was looking at older model stats.

Yeah must've looked at the old A5

This is better: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_a5_(2017)-8494.php

Compare:
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8494&idPhone2=8577

Looks pretty good, although even bigger than the XCover and the CPU might chew some power too so it's gonna need the bigger battery.

Yeah tough call on which to get.

I'd get a smaller version of the A5 if possible.

A3 2017 maybe ? Smaller than the A5, ip68 and a big battery. It holds better than my moto g 2015.

Battery on the A3 - which looks good - is only 2350 mah though.

To be fair I just checked dimensions of my 6s and the a5 is only 2 mm bigger, so that’s ok for me.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-New-Samsung-Galaxy-Xcover-4-Black-16GB-4G-LTE-Unlocked-Android-Smartphone/192602145016?epid=2160250628&hash=item2cd7fb80f8%3Ag%3AahMAAOSwFYJbT11h&_nkw=xcover+4+&_from=R40&rt=nc

Stick an offer in on that?

Considering my luck with phones the last couple of years (3 smashed screens, 1 dropped in the sink, 1 in the pool, 1 in a bootloop) my next phone is going to be something rugged as hell

I'd rather chew my own dick off than order another phone from ebay.

Fuck there's some dumb people out there.

Why aren't there photos of the phone?

Screen on A3 is smaller and with fewer pixels which will mean the battery has less to drive than the A5.

No idea, maybe if it's new they didn't want to open the box?

Cheaper on amazon at £170.

True but it’s quite a lot smaller. Anyway, a5 isn’t too big.

Just need to decide if I want the better a5 or supposedly tough xcover4.

That, the lack of photos, the questionable warranty, etc., all translate into lower offers :)

Pretty much universally a new thing that costs £170 is worth like <£100 second hand right? if the seller's not an idiot they'll let it go for £100. Given that they didn't check Amazon prices maybe they are an idiot though.

Yeah I’d offer 100 tops.

But sod that, not worth the 70 saving!

@hippy the cover does it have fingerprint unlock?

No

Seals the seals then. A5.

Await a post that I’ve smashed my 2 day old a5.

Is there a decent option to remove or at least freeze shitty vendor apps on a non-rooted phone. Titanium backup used to be my go to but phone needs to be rooted.

Non-rooted you can disable them in Settings > Apps

Only if they're installed as user apps and not system apps.