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• #4402
It's not too big.
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• #4403
A quick google says yes.
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• #4404
Instructions on page 2 of here;
https://www.trpcycling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/FM2.3-Hylex.-Hylex-FM-160602.pdf
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• #4405
Thanks. Was just getting off to le google.
Me. Expensive brakes. Allen key.
WAHT COULD GO RONG? -
• #4406
Measure once, cut twice.
I think.
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• #4407
Finally went hydro at the weekend. Cable trimming and internal routing meant a bleed was needed afterwards so got round to that last night.
Still seems like quite a bit of lever throw though, can anybody confirm if the pic looks ok?
I got a lot of bubbles out and the levers could touch the bars pre-bleed.
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• #4408
I've got ST-RS685/BR-RS805 to be internally routed.
Does it make any odds whether I disconnect at the lever or caliper?
Are the barbs and olives reusable?
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• #4409
barbs maybe if you can get them out, olives I don't think so
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• #4410
Ah.
Sounds like it'll be easier to cut the end off and just replace everything as a matter of course.
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• #4411
Are the barbs and olives reusable?
Nope.
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• #4412
lever or caliper?
If the caliper end has a banjo fitting rather than an inline fitting, definitely the lever.
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• #4413
I am such a dick (was it ever in doubt): I opened the box to check this and found they have the "easy hose joint system"...
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• #4414
You can adjust the lever throw a bit. Check the little grub screw up in the hood between brake lever and gear paddle, labelled 'reach-adjust pushrod' on page 16 of this. Tighten it up to push the lever away from the bars. Mine is always coming loose and I find the levers at the bars every so often.
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• #4415
I've re-used barbs and olives a couple of times on my R685 (levers)/ BR785 (calipers) with no issues. Always ended up being at the caliper end. I've got the spares and been ready to fit them if necessary, but haven't died yet.
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• #4416
Yes, I think Shimano are erring on the side of caution.
I can't see why you couldn't slice the tube to free the connector and Hope (I think) say their olives are reusable.
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• #4417
We’ve had this conversation so many times!
They are definitely re-useable, but the barb is quite difficult to remove without a steady hand and a sharp knife.
But new brakes (without the new easy joint system) should come with a spare barb and olive.
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• #4418
We’ve had this conversation so many times!
Soz :(
I did remember it coming up, but not which brand was being discussed.
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• #4419
Ta!
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• #4420
My Pompetamine's horizontal drop outs seem to necessitate a fight/to re-setup my avid bb7s any time I do anything with the rear wheel.
After my latest (multiple hr) fight for non-catching+reasonable lever throw I am strongly considering switching to hydraulic, especially as all the hardware on the avids is past wearing our from ~5 years of commuting and multiply being re-setup.
From reading back a few pages these https://www.merlincycles.com/shimano-slx-m7000-front-and-rear-disc-brake-set-95363.html seem a reasonable/good bet. How do you tell if these are set up the British way?
Having been scarred by my bb7 experience (apart from once they are set up when they have been great) is it just a case of bolting the new ones on and squeezing the lever a couple of times, or is it worth taking to a bike shop? Do I need a different adaptor or will it work on the current one?
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• #4421
Changing stem and bars on my road bike to shorten the reach will probably mean I'll have to shorten the brake hoses too. I've read this epicbleedsolution guide and skimmed through the levers' technical manual (they're ST-R785) and I'm left with two questions:
- is there an obvious sign than my levers/calipers are using the "easy hose joint system" without opening everything up?
- if they are using that system I guess the guide mentioned above doesn't apply, so what do I do?
Sorry for the noob question... hydraulic disc brakes are so wonderful :)
- is there an obvious sign than my levers/calipers are using the "easy hose joint system" without opening everything up?
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• #4422
They'll probably be fine.
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• #4423
You mean they won't need shortening? A part of me cannot help but thinking "what if they do"
I looked up the subject of the easy hose joint system and it seems that it has very visible, well, joints on the hoses between levers and brakes and mine don't show these, so I should be fine, I guess.
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• #4424
+1 - Regarding easy hose stuff, afaik these are mostly used by big brands to speed up / ease shop assembly and pretty visible (i think these are not part of the usual st-r785 package - at least not in the kits i installed).
But i'm not sure how having these on your bike could be problematic to shorten your brake hoses. Actually, I think it would even ease the operation, by allowing you to cut the hose at the joint in addition to brake side / lever side. Just make sure to measure twice before cutting, and to have a few spare olives + a bleed kit "just in case". -
• #4425
Yeah, how much are you changing the reach? Unless it's loads they'll probably be alright as is, try it first before worrying anyway.
I've got them on now....I threw money at the problem.
My saddles all off and I don't have pedals on yet, so I'll find out tmrw am. First impressions of new bike were, oh is this too big?