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• #84977
There would be a no right turn sign if they couldn't, so my understanding is that there are no restrictions on traffic turning right into Bloomsbury Way.
The straight arrow on the traffic lights is informing road users that the road that is straight ahead is a one way street.
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• #84978
I think the one way signs only apply to what's in front of the traffic light, or in this case that's the intention: to stop motors turning left immediately.
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• #84979
Well, as with many oddly-shaped junctions in Central London, the signage and signalisation régime that was basically devised for more regularly-shaped streets doesn't quite work here. The problem is that there are two junctions within one here with streets into which a right turn would theoretically be possible, Bloomsbury Way (one-way eastbound) and New Oxford Street (east, one-way westbound). There's not enough space to define these two junctions separately, so the assumption is that once drivers have cleared the signage governing the signals at the junction of Museum Street and New Oxford Street (west westbound and east westbound), the junction of New Oxford Street (west eastbound), Museum Street, and Bloomsbury Way is a separate junction not subject to signal control. Put more simply, once you've cleared the traffic lights at Museum Street/New Oxford Street, you've also cleared the signage relating to it and you can go straight ahead into Museum Street or turn right into Bloomsbury Way. It is assumed that it is clear to drivers that they shouldn't turn into New Oxford Street (west eastbound)
There is no banned right turn into Bloomsbury Street, only into New Oxford Street (east of the junction). There is also a banned left turn for all modes except cyclists into New Oxford Street (west of the junction). Both of these banned turns only affect the 'first' junction.
The misleading impression that the right turn into Bloomsbury Way may be banned arises only because of the placement of the secondary signal head on the traffic island opposite (the one further back on the left in the pictures). Signalised junctions are required to usually have two 'primary' signal heads on each approach (in very exceptional cases one), which are usually placed either side of the entry of each street, as well as a 'secondary' signal head, which is often placed opposite the entry and can be quite far away. It still governs the same stop line as the primary heads. Its placement is confusing here, but there is no other place to put it.
The straight arrow on the traffic lights is informing road users that the road that is straight ahead is a one way street.
No, it means what mattioats says:
I think the one way signs only apply to what's in front of the traffic light, or in this case that's the intention: to stop motors turning left immediately.
(They're not a one-way signs, though, they just mean that straight ahead is mandatory, with the stated exception.)
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• #84980
Thanks for clearing up here. As you say, the confusion has come from the secondary signal on the island that seems to suggest again that you can only go straight on at the next part of the junction, but with there being only one stop line I've not been able to make a decision on it either way myself. Had wondered if it was the case of no right turn purely because it can get quite gnarly on a bike due to the bus lane/stop often causing queues so cars then attempt to force their way in to the right hand lane. Hadn't been helped by works on museum street reducing that to one lane for a while too. But yeah cheers for the breakdown mate, didn't think I could get any more confused coming from the mental one way system and pedestrianisation of Newcastle but this one has had me stumped for months
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• #84981
Can't seem to find the place on here where I can change my password...
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• #84982
There isn't a password? You put your email in, it sends a code to that email and you copy that code in to log on right? Sorry those are genuine questions I've not had to do it in a while.
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• #84983
That's what I had to do now after I logged out, but I have a password set in lastpass so there must be a place for it.
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• #84984
What bike shops in London would be up for doing some experimentational type work?
I want to try running my nature boy disc with a derailleur using the problem solvers adapter. Id provide the major parts but would like someone who knows what theyre doing to try it
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• #84985
SBC obvs
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• #84986
Obviously
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• #84987
There used to be a password, there isn't anymore.
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• #84989
Wide 26.0 clamp silver risers?
Wide like 650+ mm.
I need that hipster look but don't want to ditch my DA AX stem.
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• #84990
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• #84991
Can you just use WD40 on your chain and cassette?
Want to keep my bike looking clean and shiny. Found that heavier lubes dirty up the chain and cassette really fast. Local mechanic told me that all they use is WD40 in the work shop.
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• #84992
Wd40 now makes bike specific stuff
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• #84993
WD40 isn't tenacious enough for a chain lube.
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• #84994
Paraffin wax. Buy a cheap wax heater off ebay and some paraffin wax powder, should come to about £15 total.
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• #84995
a cheap wax heater off ebay and some paraffin wax powder, should come to about £15
Some candles and a cheap saucepan from the local shop should come to about a third of that.
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• #84996
True, but chances of setting fire to things is somewhat lower...
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• #84997
And where's the fun in that?
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• #84998
What's the best way to clean a chain before dunking it in wax? And how often do you have to reapply?
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• #84999
Citrus degrease followed by isopropyl alcohol for new / race chains.
Training chains I just put them straight in, the liquid wax is quite effective at removing dirt, with a little agitation. I use a bent spoke to stir / move the chain and remove it from the wax.
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• #85000
Dump it in your LBS's parts washer for an hour then hit it with a clean rag
Failing that, boil it (horrible), ultra-sonic it (spendy), dip it in petrol or some other horrible substance (dangerous)
Quickest way to get a clean chain is to buy a new one :)
Query that I've not been able to find an answer to. Can cars take route 2 at this junction? I'd understand it to be that all the signs would suggest no but they do every day.
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