That Corbyn fella...

If Labour doesn't want a whole bundle of problems over the NI border, they better try to get everyone to agree with staying in the EAA/EFTA. Otherwise it's a proper border.

And their manifesto / chat is still confusing as hell. I hope it's all part of a strategic play, but honestly I still don't know where they really stand on Brexit/EU national rights (saying we agree them and then saying BUT we don't want the EJC to police it, is not that useful Keir Starmer should know this)

I am beginning to lose patience with all this, but that's politics, ultimately you will be betrayed by people you had great hopes in. Or maybe not.

That seems to me like a good move. Smith has worked on that brief before, it's a time when because of the DUP situation the position is very important and Smith can hopefully profile himself, and Corbyn reaches out to the party's centrists without compromising his shadow cabinet.

Lots of people have been humble, including Polly Toynbee. Funnily enough, no word yet from Tony Blair, but I suppose we'll just have to wait until he can take time out from his important peacekeeping duties.

One does wonder after whom this little boy has been named:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/firefighters-help-deliver-baby-boy-on-back-seat-of-car-in-southeast-london-a3569121.html

One does wonder after whom this little boy has been named:

Since the child arrived without any immediate need of the NHS, I would suggest it is named for Jeremy Hunt

Also, when an NHS employee arived, it was to make a cut.

Jeremy Hunt is a cut.

Now in the lead for 'Who would make best PM?' according to a YouGuv poll for The Times:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-politics-corbyn-idUKKBN19E0HB

YouGuv

And they've even renamed themselves in his honour. :)

They needed a 'neither of these dickheads' option in the survey

They have one. That's why both poll in the thirties.

I think they had 'unsure' which to me at least isn't rejection of both :)

Maybe it's the hangover/comedown talking but just watched the guy's glasto speech and dispite the odd tagged on moment to play to the crowd I'm almost inspired by a politician. I don't think there's ever been a time in my life when someone who is so much not a cunt is so close to power, I actually believe he wants what's best for people and might even be able to do it. I'm slightly in love.

Yep felt the same. Pretty historic To hear such words from a potential pm

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/undercover-with-paul-lewis-and-rob-evans/2017/jun/27/why-exactly-were-the-police-spying-on-jeremy-corbyn

Corbyn now sacking people for voting to stay in the single market. Corbyn's position on Berxit is closer to the Tories than a large number of his own party. I think he's got it wrong on this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40451301

Berxit.

Ohh dear, Jeremy Corbyn

The subject of the vote is irrelevant, he is simply disposing of the chaff.

Yes, I think he has to be a bit more careful on this, I suspect he was the beneficiary of a lot of Brexit voters in the GE who had no choice but to vote not Tory. He has a very weak position on Europe.

He was also the beneficiary of a significant youth vote, who are unlikely to be Brexits. Not sure they'd appreciate this kind of behaviour.

Is he playing the 'will of the people' game because he fears losing votes if he doesn't? Unless he has another agenda, I don't really get it

Farage has already congratulated him apparently?!

Think he's doing the "look how ruthless I can be now", thing.

There's a theory that Labour want to use this as an opportunity to let the Tories tear themselves apart over this issue, so standing back and letting them get on with it is part of a wider strategy.

Corbyn himself had opposed the single market since its inception, so it shouldn't surprise anyone that he is ambivalent towards retaining UK membership.

I just think it's a lost opportunity, by supporting the amendment en masse, Labour could've begun to get support from the pro-European Tories.

Even some of the anti-Corbynites in the party reported the bill as being ill timed. It was never going to pass and could only raise Umunna's profile and hurt Labour. The Labour amendment was asking for the same things in different words (it both kept the door open for access, and prevented doors from closing to it). Once it becomes clear via negotiations that the benefits it called for can't be maintained without access discussions can move onto other arrangements. As Watson said, this forced a vote on something too early.

I think the vote was more to raise Umunna's profile and mark him as pro-Europe and a possible future party leader.

Before negotiations you can't definitively say what you want and you're going to get it without question. If there were loads of onerous conditions on being in the single market we could still be better off out of it. There's no stance that we're definitely leaving the single market so it's pretty pointless.

How can he be a party leader if he directly contradicts the current leader, bails on previous leadership contests and isn't in the shadow cabinet because he acts like a child?

As a front-bencher you're expected to follow the whip or lose your position. That applies to all parties, it shows everyone else the people in charge are united, it wouldn't look very good if your top cabinet ministers were voting against the party. Corbyn didn't really have a choice here, if he hadn't sacked them then he'd be seen as a weak leader, he sacks them and he's against the EU.