Which Groupset?

The Chainset is growing on me, it's probably still the best looking one out of the current generation

Not sure how Shimano went from producing the best looking chainset by miles for DA9000 to producing one that looks like an ultegra crank mixed with those horrific campag ones.

Didn't we all say the same thing when 9000 was released?

What? That 7900 was the best looking crank on the market?! Lol.

Pretty sure everyone got moist over the 9000 cranks straight away.

when does di2 become old enough to be purchased cheaply 2nd hand?

10spd di2 is stupidly cheap 2nd hand. Still lovely stuff.

you are a designer you should know better

Just realised you are UX now ..

Those are 2012 Sram cranks.

These are the latest ones, also the best ones.

Racist.

I bought my first Di2 group (10sp) for under £300, cost about the same again to upgrade everything to internal battery and 11sp

Not bad.

Now, if they could just get their products to last longer than the unboxing video...

Where does the SRAM being unreliable notion come from? My old 10 spd rival stuff is still going strong and shifting fine after 6 years and the cheapo apex group i have is solid too.

Bro, do u even Groupset thread?

Actually, no. I misread the title...

weights and prices are here ---> http://www.bicycleretailer.com/sites/default/files/downloads/article/Pricing%20and%20Weights.pdf

They've not gone for low weight then.

new red cranks are hott. 9000 cranks also hott

new DA cranks unseemly

Function>Form

I'm looking to upgrade my partner's Sora 9spd groupset to Tiagra 4700.

Believe I can keep the current FSA chainset so just need cassette, front/rear derailleurs, chain, and shifters.

Anyone know anywhere selling "part groupsets" - buying a full groupset gives me stuff I don't need, but buying individual components seems to fairly expensive.

Tiagra 4700 generally seems hard to get hold of, unless you get a bike with it on already.

Yes you can, no reason why not.

The other budget option is putting a 105 5700 shifters instead, and change only the chain and cassette as Sora have the same cable pull as the old 10 speed Shimano road derailleur (as well as the 8 speed version), having said that, the Tiagra 4700 shifters outperform the 105 5700 in every way possible, and a lots more suitable for smaller hand.

Be wary, FSA chainring isn't exactly stiff, while it'll work fine, it won't work as well as a Shimano chainset due to the stiffer chainring on the 4700, 5800, 6800/etc.

Cheers - yeah, I have 105 5700 - new Tiagra seems nicer, especially on the front shifts, so will go with that.

Just need to find it at an acceptable budget now!

Well, start with the chain and cassette, the cheapest one you can find will work perfectly well.

I usually recommend checking German website like Rose, but unfortunately due to Brexit, the pound's too weak.

up until very recently you could get a 2016 silver veloce groupset for 300 pounds. Ribble no longer has stock, anyone know anywhere that still has it?? cheers

Sora looking very impressive for 2017.

Sora looking very impressive for 2017.

Still 9 speed? Is it so much more expensive to make a 10/11 speed groupset, even for Shimano at this point?