We're all in this together

“Later, as he sat on his balcony eating the dog, Dr Robert Laing reflected on the unusual events that had taken place within this huge apartment building during the previous three months.”

Thor to the rescue.

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In what together? It is one of the those meaningless statements that means different things to different people.

There has always been rich and poor and inequality in society. go back a couple of hundred years to see real inequality. In fact there was a paper once that modelled money flow in an economy. the maths used was the same as that used to model the flow of dislocations in metals and how they tangle. What that physist found was it makes little difference how you rig the tax system money always sticks to the few. Those few change with time but it is always a few. So in short as history shows trying to make society more equal never actually works. All you do is move the inequality around a bit and sometimes not even that. I am not saying politics is pointless but we often want politicians to solve problems that can't be solved and we then pay little attention to the problems that can be solved.

Sir, this is not Bikeradar.

Wait until @Oliver Schick sees this...

what has bike radar got to do with anything. Am I not permitted an opinion that is different to yours?

I make a statement and give an argument is that not what debate is about otherwise all we have is an echo chamber.

red hearing

This Freudian slip reveals your true colours. :)

The Barbican is a completely different case to other estates--not comparable.

Obviously, I agree that socio-economic problems are really to blame.

Only a perpetually cynical Private Eye reader could possibly think such thoughts. :)

Yes, that and lots of other factors, e.g. where it is located, etc.

It was an experiment in the sort of cityscape recommended in the 1959 Buchanan Report and was seen as emblematic of the modernisation and rebuilding of London. As ever, and as with all other estates, private or public, how it was managed was the real deciding factor in its success or failure.

I should have known that it was you who was behind all this all along. :)

Ah, sorry, going through posts one by one.

In what together? It is one of the those meaningless statements that means different things to different people.

'All in this together' has traditionally been used to emphasise solidarity and was being used to disguise the opposite when I started this thread.

There has always been rich and poor and inequality in society. go back a couple of hundred years to see real inequality. In fact there was a paper once that modelled money flow in an economy. the maths used was the same as that used to model the flow of dislocations in metals and how they tangle. What that physist found was it makes little difference how you rig the tax system money always sticks to the few. Those few change with time but it is always a few. So in short as history shows trying to make society more equal never actually works. All you do is move the inequality around a bit and sometimes not even that. I am not saying politics is pointless but we often want politicians to solve problems that can't be solved and we then pay little attention to the problems that can be solved.

It is highly unlikely that a physicist's thought experiment can give any useful indication of what can be achieved politically.

Of course, the vast majority of governments in human history have been oligarchies of one kind or another, and distribution of wealth has been uneven in most societies we know of (not, by the way, in many so-called 'primitive' societies, where inequality is often centred around honour and other immaterial goods). However, there are still intriguing question marks over seemingly extraordinary societies like the 'Harappan' civilisation, of which our knowledge is still far from complete.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWpccdlQ_Gs

This will probably only mean something to Ludwig (not that he will click on it :) ).

Wait until @Oliver Schick sees this...

It has, in fact, just come on my Schickradar.

This is LFGSS, my friend. :)

Sounds rather unhygenic to me.

Reported for Schick stirring.

Which reminds me to have another look at trainers.

Could turn into a schick sandwich

o_O

German Army Trainers

This forum is almost revived to better days. But not quite. Cunts

Oh hai!

@dancing james did you know Ridley Scott is still alive?

#derail

What about Flash Gordon?

Yeah so good. Brian has published his low key autobiography but it'd Peter Duncan I feel sorry for, such a talent, blue peter, flash Gordon and now where? Working in Currys