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• #9727
Went to sleep last night intending on a fast day today (realised I'd put on 5% of my bodyweight since getting back from tour) and woke up SO HUNGRY. How is this done?! Today's already a write off, made a huge cheese sandwich for lunch
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• #9728
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• #9729
Increasing FTP and losing weight is always going to be tough.
Without the right carb/protein consumption after a had session. The body won't recover for the next.
Plus FTP increasing cycle training is going to be far trickier to fuel, than just distance cycling. So you end up eating more sports-crap.
I am successfully balancing my weight lose and FTP increase perfectly. Both have stagnated completely despite 4 figure weekly TSS scores. Im just very fit, tired, and hungry.
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• #9730
I'm going trademark 'sports crap'. With sub categories of 'chewy crap', 'gelled crap', and 'soluble crap'.
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• #9731
4 weeks in to the restarted regime and looks like I'm through the usual initial plateau. Hopefully 0.5kg a week from now on, with a few weeks off for
gluttonyholidays, that should put me near my target weight for the London Marathon (should I get a place). -
• #9732
I've been through this, admittedly when I was much younger, including lots of time spent at UCLH (back when there was still a building on Mortimer St) and a heavily disrupted schooling/adolescence. I emerged at the other side with a 3+ year hole in my life and a profound sense of social isolation but things sort-of came together eventually. Appreciate that's not at all useful. In many ways the diagnosis is helpful because you have something to pin issues to and work with, but in others it's useless as it doesn't really provide any guidance as to where to go next. I don't really know what the magic bullet was that fixed everything for me, but there was a lot of control of what I was eating towards the end which may have been contributive.
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• #9733
Actually, that really helps, thanks for that.
The main problem I have right now is trying to get my round the 99% of the material on the interwebs about it being absolute doom and gloom and "you'll be fucked for the rest of your life" and "you'll never ever improve and nothing will ever cure you so you need to get used to it" and so forth. There are very few positive stories with people saying, hey I had that, but I got better - so I can't over-emphasise how helpful it is for you (of all people on this endurance cycling forum) to be saying just that.
It's sometimes difficult to stay positive as I'm sure you can imagine, but stories like that give me a bit more optimism. So cheers - glad you got better to become the machine you are today!
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• #9734
Don't worry if you can't stay positive all the time. Focussing on that aspect can often be just another ball to juggle. But if you can subconsciously plant seeds of 'there is life after', that'd be good :)
I hated it at the time, hate how it's affected me on a much longer-term scale and still carry a deep fear that it's not really gone and I'm currently experiencing a short beautiful snapshot of what life could actually be like before it reclaims me and everything turns to shit again. Which is why I think I've only mentioned my experiences with it maybe three times in the last 10 years, and even then only quietly. -
• #9735
Heh. Yeah, I'm familiar with The Fear there - "maybe this is just going to be my life now/in future?" isn't a great thought for anyone to be having and I've been avoiding talking about it as much as possible too. On the plus side I've never heard of anyone catching it (or however the hell it happens) again after recovering once, so the relapse rate seems like it'll work in your favour and hopefully mine too.
In the meantime, positive thinking:
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• #9736
@bothwell full sympathy here. I had a form of ME in my teens and it was hell. The good news is, please don't read the shit on the Internet. I found with my migraine it felt like a competition to see who was having a worse day than everyone else, and when i shared down positive news, got shot down.
People do recover from CFS, although time is the issue. My friend has recovered quiet well using a combination of diet and exercise. If you'd like me to put you in touch with her please let me know. (((Hugs)))
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• #9737
I'm guessing increasing your coffee intake 14-fold won't have the desired effect?
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• #9738
*Tries to imagine a hyper-caffeinated bothwell *
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• #9739
I'm guessing increasing your coffee intake 14-fold won't have the desired effect?
I'm intolerant to caffeine so that'd make me feel even worse.
I have read, though, that taking amphetamines helps. So, you know. Take me to your dealer.
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• #9740
Doc* Hippy says take caffeine until you're not intolerant. Live as addict for rest of your days.
*Less Dr than Doc Martins
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• #9741
Do not drink Huel you mixed the day before. Did this yesterday and have been feeling like death all day. Unsettled stomach, tired, headachey and generally crap. Sucks as fresh it tastes amazing and feel great all day.
TurboFire is hard, waay more coordination required than Insanity. LadyLiz is all over it like a boss while I'm flailing around like a fool... Kinda addictive tho.
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• #9742
Do not drink Huel
ftfy
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• #9743
Meh.
I love it. Cheaper and healthier than the shit I generally eat if I'm in the truck. Can easily do £8/2000+kcal on breakfast and lunch if I go near the caff with my colleagues. -
• #9744
£8/2000+kcal on breakfast
Seems entirely reasonable to me. "Food" from powder >>>
Way too Soylent Green.
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• #9745
"Food" from powder >>>
Seems legit to me
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• #9746
Well played.
Fizz Wizz would've worked better for the Aussie though. Mmm might go buy some sherbert.
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• #9747
Had two good days and a ride. Pizza, 4 cans, crisps and an energy drink today after four flapjacks for breakfast soon put paid to any notion of keeping that up.
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• #9748
Just had a look at the Huel website. It's a powder "made from real food"....that replaces real food....that you can then make into real food and flavour with real food.
...I need a mind blown gif.
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• #9749
Huel, bullshit blended into marketing spread onto hype and used to feed weirdos.
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• #9750
first bigger day of training, realising that my quinoa, chicken salad for lunch is not going to give me the fuel for this evening session, hit me up with healthy carb additions - whole soreen loaf?!
Getting a diagnosis is progress- so in a way good news, but I am of course sorry to hear that you are still crook. Maybe some middle class white males could solve your problem, possibly they might also have an MBA?
In other news, I have decided to abandon my 75kg target and revel in being heavy- new target is "keep it below 85kg", whilst seeing what power I can make.
If it's tough sticking to the weight you need for your power to weight target- well, there's another way to skin that cat, or that is my theory at least. Where's my protein shake?