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• #427
Ah shit. Well I imagine the electorate and government wouldn't be too happy if the monarchy started to order coups. Last time that happened heads rolled.
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• #428
Armed forces say you can't reduce expenditure on armed forces because... well, because armed forces duh.
So they're in the murdoch press willy waving that they'd overthrow democracy and instate a military junta? Is that the hint we should be getting? Republicans v Royalists?
Breathtaking.
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• #429
Lots of other gems like the security services would never give him the security clearance to be briefed on operations etc.
The generals have done eff all about the last couple of decades of cuts so it's all silly propaganda
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• #430
They've been cut right back for ages anyway. Maybe they're annoyed as Corbyn's hinted they will use the armed forces to help people, rather than kill them where possible.
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• #431
Ha^
Yeah, who wants to be benevolent, when there's bad people around like Hamas ... oh wait don't Saudi Arabia support them? Well we need to sell them arms, so ... ummm ... Syria ... no wait ... not them, their opponents, them Sunnis in the Levant and Syria, oh wait that's the Ba'ath party, bad bad Saddam, would you like some weapons? ... ummm the Kurds! Oh, stop, what about Turkey.
I know! We'll sell all of them arms. And Israel. And stand well back, like with fireworks. Do not return to a lit firework.
I've just had some average Belgian beer, brewed in Luton, so forgive my incoherence.
At least I'm not on 'Spice'! Saw a fucking good Vice doc this morning about it, 'Spice Boys'. Mad shit, like a mashup of all the shit things about: skunk (think anxiety, racing heartbeat) with crack (aggression and constant top-up dosing) with smack (shakes, aches and nasty withdrawal). And it's legal! And seems to be rife in prisons and among rough sleepers. Word! Aint capitalism grand!
What's Corbyn going to do about the BOREDOM that makes young people turn to substance abuse?
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• #432
A coup d'etat would probably keep people entertained for at least a long weekend.
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• #433
What's Corbyn going to do about the BOREDOM that makes young people turn to substance abuse?
He will inject everything available into himself and take the two birds with one stone.
Setting himself as the example not to follow and entertaining cautious bored people are the only two things that everyone agrees he's good at.
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• #434
I thought this was an interesting article from Ed Vulliemy at the Observer:
"Anyway, how much of what Corbyn argues do most voters disagree with, if they stop to think? Do people approve of bewildering, high tariffs set by the cartel of energy companies, while thousands of elderly people die each winter of cold-related diseases? Do students and parents from middle- and low-income families want tuition fees?
Do people like paying ludicrous fares for signal-failure, delays and overcrowding on inept railways? Do people urge tax evasion by multinationals and billionaires, which they then subsidise with cuts to the NHS? Post-cold war, who exactly are we supposed to kill en masse with these expensive nuclear missiles? What’s so good about the things Corbyn wants to drastically change?"
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/20/ed-vulliamy-jeremy-corbyn-observer-editorial
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• #435
It is a good piece. Hopefully over the coming weeks/months there will be more like that. Pieces that are engaging with the things that reportedly make him unelectable, rather than with him being unelectable.
Papers have avoided doing that thus far by drawing attention to the things he's doing (not singing, appointing the wrong people to the SC, riding a Maocycle), rather than the things he wants to do. This may be why some sort of PR machine is necessary (unfortunately).
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• #436
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/15/eremy-corbyn-needs-spin-doctor-media-four-reasons is a good piece on what a PR team might have been able to do in those first 48 hours.
In Corbyn's case, I think that he needs PR to help to get his point of view, and world view over, rather than anything else.
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• #437
Well of course the appropriate response to a Corbyn led government should be a military coup
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• #438
So long as it's not the same bullshit, patronising spin that has driven people away from politics for the last 20 years.
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• #439
oh I quite agree, but I think that he (Corbyn) needs someone to help get his side of events into the right places.
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• #440
How's he going to do that with Murdoch opposing him?
I think he's better suited to going without a phalanx of spin doctors, I'm enjoying his total lack of soundbites as it makes you listen to/read the whole of what he's saying, for e.g.
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• #441
Pretty good analysis of the Labour parties current predicament.
https://livesrunning.wordpress.com/2015/09/23/how-king-jeremy-will-rule/
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• #442
Tl;dr.
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• #443
The tiny font doesn't help.
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• #444
So, if I get this right, he is delegating responsibility for certain policy areas such as defence and Europe, to more centrist Labour MPs, in order to keep the party together and allow him to focus on what is most important to those who elected him: public services and a fairer tax system. I'm optimistic.
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• #445
Hopefully next he'll delegate his choice of jacket and tie for PM questions. That was a disaster.
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• #446
Ooh, get you.
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• #447
Yes, get me, who, like anyone else who doesn't live in a cave, stopped wearing oversize charity shop jackets in about 2003.
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• #448
It was his sense of style that lost him the labour leadership after all.
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• #449
^^Reading that back, it sounds more serious than intended. perhaps my mistake was the phrase "but seriously"
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• #450
Winnifred in po-faced shocker.
lel.
justkidding...
They swear allegiance to the monarch, not the elected government.