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• #5052
defo more like 283 than 273.
We seem to Climb at a similar rate. Yet Your bike is fat*.
(*sorry)
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• #5053
That's the aim of this training block at the moment, to see if I can drop down to 68kg and still hold the numbers. I got near 69 earlier in the year, so it might be doable. Lots of soup to look forward to :-(
Hope the niggles sort themselves out.
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• #5054
thank fuck for that eh!
Need to get a PM on the road bike. Suspect my ftp is at least 20w higher on one.
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• #5055
Why do you think I don't road race any more? Fucking hills, how do they work?!
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• #5056
How do you manage your appetite if you're training so hard though? Turbo make me hungerz
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• #5057
For some reason theres a lot of flat racing up here. Often With one bastard Climb. So you need a bit of W/Kg. But the guy from my Club that wins everything is a TT master. If you let him og off the front. You wont see him again. He admitts to not being able to compete above 8%.
That said. Hes still lighter than I am.
I've been working on climbing (10 -90 mins), and flat bridging (1 - 3mins, usually to the Group that dropped me on the Climb). Seems to be working. Racing/sportiving is feeling loads easier.
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• #5058
Racing/sportiving
I believe the term in "mamiling".
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• #5059
5s: 776
30s: 750
1min: 522
2min: 425
5min: 389
20min: 346
60min: 282
6 hours: 281
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• #5060
I don't think you've tried hard enough for an hour!
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• #5061
Indeed, I would expect your 60mins to be at least 90% of your 20min and probably more than 95%
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• #5062
True. XC event on the 28th should sort that out.
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• #5063
Last 3 months:
5s: 708
30s: 509
1min: 388
2min: 323
5min: 305
20min: 263
1 hour: 211
2 hours: 2071 and 2 hr values are both from this weekend's HIM race but I haven't done any long sustained power efforts in training recently, and no 25 or 50mile TTs.
I normally use 10mile TTs as my benchmark FTP test as I work harder with a number on, and there are enough local events to be easily repeatable. Based on my current TT results I estimate FTP to be around 250w, however I've only been able to race twice so far this year so I suspect that in reality it's a fraction higher but I don't have data to actually support that.
Switching from TTs last year to long distance Tri this year has seen a c. 30w drop off in FTP, but in my limited racing this year, I don't appear to be significantly slower - presumably because of improved aeros.
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• #5064
Same here. My figures were for the last 3 months. Include all figures for the last year, including track time over the winter, and they're:
5s: 1107W
30s: 777W
1m: 564WSeems like I only really give it the beanz on track.
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• #5065
Me neither. Even though I rather suspect the 283W figure is based on some slightly dodgy numbers produced by a Powertap track hub and a Garmin head unit still busily auto-zeroing when I slowed down at the end of my warm-up...
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• #5066
I haven't done any short efforts ever, and my only races have been 10 and 50 mile TTs which I hope explains why my data looks odd!
5s 991
30s 592
1 minute 468
2 minute 381
5 minute 333
20 minute 298
1 hour 245
2 hour 243 -
• #5067
You have to work hard enough to feel sick, without doing a @Smallfurry :-)
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• #5068
I am to road racing, as dressage is to horse racing.
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• #5069
If a snow filled roadside ditch doesnt look like a bed to you. You havent emptied yourself.
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• #5070
Thanks all, that's quite the response! Trying to get an idea of efforts needed for certain hill climbs (2-6 mins).
But because idiot I just realised Strava has a power curve for me to work it out myself!!
Last 6 weeks (commuting and 1 x road race):
20 mins 311w
10 mins 316w
5 mins 347w
1 min 483w
5s 940w -
• #5071
It seems I have sprinter's legs but I do lots of long distance stuff (Audax) where there's simply no need to push hard for a long time and so I quickly go into pootle mode:-
(old data from when I was last in any kind of reasonable shape):-
5s: 1128w
30s: 566w
1min: 397w
2min: 347w
5min: 269w
20min: 228w
60min: 214w
6 hours: 135w
30h 15m 44s: 89w (from the Bryan Chapman 600 on fixed)Aim is to actually bother to push hard on longer rides, FTP should probably be up around 250W if I bothered to put together a proper training effort.
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• #5072
Sprinters legs with an endurance heart. Ditto.
When MAMILing (cheers TW2). I find my low FTP sees me suffering for the first hour or so. But after a few hours I find myself wondering why everyones slowing down. By then the front group is long gone. So I just sit in before sprinting for 73rd.
have some longer stuff coming up though.
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• #5073
I'm training 10-14hrs a week, depending on time race duration. I don't know what else averages, these are from the last three months.
5, 1160
30, 933
1, 708
5, 460
20, 381
1hr, 355
3hr, 297 -
• #5074
Oof!
What do you race?
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• #5075
Part of me is wishing all yo' zero offsets are fooked.
W/kg is important for climbing, but there's plenty of flat roads for the bigger engines to play on where W/CdA is more important. Maybe not in Nordicville though.. you best move..