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For 20g you can get a wider set of rims (ACE WU3T). Bit more stiff probably, and a little gluing area. But at 38mm Depth I'd be tempted to just og With the ones above.

ED: or rather on the last page.

Current weight (with the 38mm tubulars that are the same as those as those in your link) would be:

• CK R45 front (18h): 102g
  
• CK R45 rear (24h): 224g
  
• 38mm x 23mm rims: 640g (320g each)
  
• Sapim CX-Ray spokes: 183g (42 x 4.36g)
  

• 12mm brass nipples: 40g (42 x 0.95g)

• TOTAL: 1189g

This is a point of contention.

But I would get some quality alu nips.

Considering CK hubs are no weight weenies (250g hubset and alu nips gets you 1085g or something). Thats pretty awesome. Bet they'd Climb lovely.

I hear about issues of 'melting' with alloy nips but, to be honest, I am not 100% sure myself having never had such an experience (I go merely from my reading online).

I use alu nips on all my Wheels. I've never had an issue. I build them With spoke prep and using a tool to tension the nips via the spoke holes. So the flats of the nips get minimal wear. If you have to take a spoke a spoke key to them a lot, the flats deform. They wont seize to the rim bed if its carbon anyway to be honest.

Potentially another weight saving there then (which can only be good news).

There are other small changes I can make to my setup to shave off some grams here or there but I won't be going crazy with it.

Ultimately, my Zipp 60s weigh in at 1.82g for the pair and a drop of over half a kilo will be tangible.

Well its basically a 1080g wheelset, just With added weight at the hubs. Where it Counts least. So I reckon they'd feel loads quicker on a known Climb.

In all seriousness and in the kindest way: @fussballclub if you'd like responses to your posts from me please help me out and write complete sentences in the English language. I never know whatthefuck you're on about.

Hah, this made me laugh. Ludwig is a law unto himself.

Boast post. Process:

1. Discover you've ordered some sort of fancy nipples with a square end, ie regular screwdriver won't work.
   
2. Lie awake at night pondering how to work around this. Deep carbon rims, nipples easily lost within. Consider inventing aluminium magnets. Or custom made tweezers.
   
3. Have eureka moment. Discover 6 mm alu rod in a box. Drill end with 3 mm drill. Then bash an old brass nipple into hole to shape it.
   
4. Hey presto, home made nipple driver.
   
   
   

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Anyone any luck with truing carbon discs?

Borrowed someones carbon disc and its too far out laterally to use in my frame, a good 4-5mm of deflection. So nope I haven't damaged it, as I can't really ride it as it is.
Its a wafer with carbon laminate on top and a tub bed, no spokes or separate rim.

I have some of these coming.

http://www.dtswiss.com/Components/Nipples/DT-Pro-Lock-squorx-Pro-Head

With a name like squorx I had to order some.

I have a park tool that has a square opening. I assume this will work.

Then I ordered a 88mm deep rim.

Now I have an interesting problem.

Squorx? Trying to think of something clever to say about that. Can't really do my thoughts justice. Good luck to you sir, and report back when you have a result, such as it may be.

Bit late reply but my experience with VO Diagonale has been great; if I am right even @miro_o has them too. Mine are laced onto 5800 hubs; they are heavy and reliable but at 64kg I wouldn't mind lesser spoke count than 32h; all silver looks classy though. I have done 1556 miles on them according to strava and there is hardly any rim wear. Swisstop blue pads too.

650b conversion is a great thing; it will completely transform the traditional road bike into something much more enjoyable. The only con I can think of is slightly shit braking due to long drop callipers; something I can live with. I bought all 650b stuff from VeloVitality. I use Grand Bois Hetre 42mm.

I am currently selling this as whole bike. I have couple of queries for frameset if you are keen on wheels I can think about splitting.

Had to order some spacers for my tune hub bearings. Wanted to add some bits to make postage bearable.

Now I may need a New tool. Its a Nice useful tool. But it seems to be most common in the US. Which gives me a all New delivery ballache.

They are alu nips. So I'd really like to do as much truing and tensioning vis the spoke holes as possible, and save the flats.

I Guess i'll see when they arrive.

*** Can o worms alert ***

So I've just had a convo with a certain @eldweebio about evening spoke dished wheel tension by using 3x DS and 2x NDS. Surely it can't even it out that much? C'mon who else does this apart from the BC brigade? Own up.

Is it all about torsional loads?

Hehe:D ^
I tried that with two touring/commuting wheels after reading somewhere that it might help...
Didn't!
Wouldn't stay straight for love money and one of them snapped three spokes before I gave up! Tester rightly dissed the approach and I rebuilt them 3x both sides with Alpines. Zero trouble:) But hey ho, live and learn:D

Edit: Convo moved on two pages ;)

Yes @mishmash11 I can +1 the VO rims being OK. They're wide and stiff and look nice. They weren't amazingly round or particularly nice to build actually but do the job.

Farsports sell a 30mm 23mm wide tub rim... but the spec's you list sound great. I want a pair!

If alloy nips belong anywhere it's on fancy HC wheels.

evening spoke dished wheel tension by using 3x DS and 2x NDS. Surely it can't even it out that much

Actually, doing it that way makes the tension imbalance worse. Mavic and maybe one or two others lace some of their boxed wheels crossed on the NDS and radial on the DS to marginally improve the tension balance, relying on a torsionally stiff hub shell to transfer drive torque from right to left without winding up the wheel too much. In the end, the right way to solve the problem is to have more spokes on the DS, e.g. Campag G3, Shimano OptBal, various 24-spoke rears with 16:8 lacing etc.

Squorx nipples have torx ends

This is useful:
http://www.bike24.de/1.php?content=8;navigation=1;product=38200;page=1;menu=1000,185,191;mid=69
(the black one)

In English:
http://www.bike24.com/p238200.html

Same price at http://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/dt-swiss-spoke-wrench-t-grip-for-torx-nipple-411137/wg_id-4293 but they have cheaper shipping to Norway

Work in progress.

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