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• #427
^^I agree that hardcore has evolved a lot over time and I get that a lot of stuff these days is a lot more metal influenced than it is minor threat influenced but hardcore has evolved in different ways in different places. I think that what makes hardcore hardcore is the message and the spirit behind the music not necessarily the musical influence.
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• #428
It depends where you look - there are a tonne of bands worldwide still playing hardcore in the traditional sense of the word. Look at the scenes in New York, Boston, Belgium, Leeds etc.
My two cents are that there is a definite divide in genres though. I feel like the 80’s throwback, straight up, skinhead, d-beat, powerviolence, crossover etc scenes all share a lot of common genre themes – aggression, obnoxious attitude, violent music… however the more screamo / emo / indie influenced side of the scene is pretty far removed from what I would term a hardcore show to be. To me, the only common theme is the DIY attitude of both genres. That’s not to say I have any problem with the latter – I just prefer going to the former these days.
Ultimately each to their own. I would love to see some more straight up bands I’ve not heard of on this internet thread on a cycling forum.
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• #429
Shitty Limits were a decent recent punk band.
One of the best UK bands of the last decade
Members are now involved in The Love Triangle/No/Die/Personnel/Good Throb and probably loads more... Ellis runs Static Shock Records and books the majority of good hardcore shows in London.
The argument for what is/isn't hardcore should be played out on UKHC2 on facebook and not on here, the way I see this thread is for people to put up cool bands and heads up on shows that fall loosely under the 'hardcore/punk' banner regardless of micro-genre.
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• #430
I think it’s very difficult to “push boundaries” these days and remain listenable. The parameters of guitar-based music have been stretched to extremes in all directions, to the extent that in order to sound different it’s necessary to have a willfully perverse approach to writing songs. This in my opinion is not compatible with the relatively straightforward aesthetic of hardcore punk.
Don’t get me wrong, there are always bands that can sound interesting and exciting by using the familiar elements in a slightly different way, but they’ll always be making reference to the past.
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• #431
There's a band called Leather from Philadelphia that I've been enjoying recently. They've been due to release an album for about the last 18 months as far as I can tell :-/
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• #432
There's a band called Leather from Philadelphia that I've been enjoying recently. They've been due to release an album for about the last 18 months as far as I can tell :-/
Is that the singer from Angry Samoans? Sounds like him.
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• #433
Jeez, I hope you don't think my post was a dig or criticism. Just continuing the discussion, I read it back and thought it sounded a bit shitty and it wasn't meant to be. I think a lot of the reason this thread is more screamo centred than it is centred around straight up hardcore is more of a reflection of the people who decide to post here than the current state of the genre.
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• #434
Rolo Tomassi definitely deserve to be in this thread.
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• #435
It's a shame everything they've produced after Hysterics has sounded like dodgy prog, I used to be well into them.
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• #436
Not heard of astrohenge but post a couple of bangers!
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• #437
Hardcore is such a broad genre though. Like calling something "indie rock". Sure, some of this falls into the more screamo or metal side of things, but there there are still new-ish bands playing more traditional hardcore (for lack of a better description).
It is funny though, 80's hardcore could be Black Flag or Minor Threat.. or Husker Du and Minutemen.
Anyway, Wrangler Brutes are (in my opinion) a new(ish) band that play hardcore.
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• #438
Interesting that you call it a "such a broad genre". I'd have said the opposite. I'd have said hardcore is what minor threat and bad brains did, and that it is / was a complete musical dead-end. When you start bringing in metal influences or it becomes being sceamo or emo it stops being hardcore. But I'd probably not be right.
I think that's where people are going to disagree with you. I think if you look at hardcore as a community led music scene, rather than a particular genre or sound, it's a lot broader than a handful of bands in the 80s. Perhaps musically a lot of what most people consider to be current hardcore wouldn't be so obviously linked to the bands you've mentioned, but if you look at the way the genre works, supported by a DIY community and driven by a desire to make music and live on your own terms, I'd argue that there's an obvious link to it's roots.
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• #439
Less chat more splat!
Two of my favourite UK bands, playing proper 'ardcore
Perspex Flesh - Faltering Slur - YouTube
and one that I haven't seen live yet but am liking the sound of
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• #440
^ Die are proper good live. Seriously confrontational.
p.s. all this whining about genre appellation is nonsense. I would like people in this thread to share music which they enjoy in the context of other music broadly defined as hardcore or punk. Genre purity is the absolute worst kind of pedantry, and only engaged in by petty-minded elitists. Trve Kvlt BM heads are a good example of this kind of idiocy.
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• #441
any gig this week?
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• #442
NO - Live at T Chances, Tottenham London March 2nd 2014 - YouTube
Sound is a little ropey, but in my opinion No are the best active hardcore band at the moment, and this show at T Chances a couple of weeks ago was awesome
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• #443
Listen to the Zulu and The Tape by Wrangler Brutes. Awesome albums. The rawness of The Tape is great, but the Albini recording of Zulu is just as good. Also has Keith Morris doing vocals on a track.
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• #444
i've missed no and perspex flesh play so many times in london! fail
throats have been one of my enduring favourite bands, i don't think i'll ever get tired of their self titled lp
Throats - Fuck Life - YouTube
what shows are people excited about going to soon? i know the people who post in this thread are nearly all into slightly different currents of punk/hardcore/etc but on the offchance something comes up that someone else didn't know about etc
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• #445
Im looking forward to the Deal with it reunion and then Comeback kid/Xibalba should be fun. Full of Hell are also playing soonish although Im not sure Im in a huge hurry to see them again, I've seen them live twice now and both times the set consisted 30% songs and 70% industrial white-noise and shrieking
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• #446
^^ Throats are incredible. The split with Maths is one of my favourite records.
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• #447
So do I take it that Sleaford Mods don't belong in here?
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• #448
This'll be good, We Came Out Like Tigers and Razoreater. Shame I'm not in the country!
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• #449
Not strictly Hardcore or Punk, but these dudes are the definition of a DIY band. First Listen to Thou's new record - Heathen. It's fucking amazing. For those who haven't heard of Thou, they're a Doom band from Louisiana.
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• #450
New La Dispute album is up for listening;
https://soundcloud.com/la-dispute/sets/rooms-of-the-house(I like them & I like a lot of other bands in this thread so I guess they're in).
Knee-jerk post. You know this isn't true.