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A little update.

I swapped the bottom bracket with a JIS (old one was jis low profile) and even if it's better than before, still gives me problems getting on big chainring. Now, the sealed bearings shimano BB i tried had the same axle (115mm) and it worked perfectly, there can be some little differences on the same axle lenght? some kind of offset maybe?

I bought some cheap inox fenders (just to see how it would look) and after some work adapting them here and there, i ran them on the gravel. I don't like how they assemble on the eyelets and on the brake bridge, but they at least seems stable; i had to create a way to fix the rear one on the brake bridge and i now still need to "adapt the look" on the wheel profile, they actually are for 26" wheels.

@SupremeSausageChampion good to know, would be awesome to find them used, i'll keep looking for some lucky shot. Thanks for the compliment!

Anything cheaper around? I'd like to avoid plastic.

Thank you @Lanterne_Rouge, they are really comfortable!

update:

Had a chance to try another bottom bracket, JIS 115mm and it's perfect! At least now i know what's the difference between jis and jis low profile.
Guess i'm ordering a Shimano BB-1055!

@larsenroad yep, the frame is big for my size, you are absolutely right, as said in the first post i got lured from the look and then i decided to build it anyway.
I have a smaller, less cool, frame to test, if things gets really uncomfortable! Thanks for the tips, it's apreciated, i'll sort it out!

@MisterMikkel you are probably right, i'm going to test with something i have here or there in the spare parts chest, i'll let you know.

@MisterMikkel the crankset asks for a 115mm JIS square taper, i had that BB-7400 that is 113mm and i tought it just would be right for that 1mm on each side! BUT, i noticed too late that's a JIS low profile... anyway it mounted and it doesn't move, fine but this could be the cause of the problem, even if being "low profile" should mean that the crank goes a little bit closer to the bottom bracket, not outer like it looks now? I'm probably wrong.

Chain line is now 47mm-ish~, tiagra front derailleur asks for 45mm.

@Batt that's what i tought on the first place, anyway i'll try this new position aswell.

@larsenroad thank you for the tips, as said i'm not used to set up road bikes for use, so i had the handlebar in way because it felt more comfortable, but i understand that's not the way!

I'm adding additional pictures, unfortunately i have a problem i need to fix with the bigger chainring and the front derailleur, you can see in the last pic at the maximum extension. I already have set up the outer adjustment bolt in any manner possible, that's why i'm blaming chainline/front derailleur, but i also understand i'm quite a rookie, so, any help is welcome!

edit: the front brake cable is too short, shame on me, some time ago i shortened the cables with another handlebar for a test ride and the current Nitto, being bigger, had this result. Going to fix it as soon as possible.

Weight: 10.60Kg

Ok, here it is the accomplishement!

Honestly i had in mind something less "black" coloured, but this is it.
I'm going to ride it a bit while i need to chose/fix:

• fenders, i like Gilles Berthoud ones, but any help is apreciated

• front derailleur can't push the chain onto large chainring:

Looks like it's a chainline problem? phisically it can't reach the outer ring, i know tiagra has a max teeth "jump" of 20 and i'm over it, but it's not like it can't climb the chainring, but simply can't reach "it" that far outside; cables are thigh

• I like the bikepacking style, i'm thinking of making my own frame bag.

• Perhaps i need some very small DIY dimp on chainstays, feels like i have only 1mm real on each side. I need to sort out the force applied by the QR, because if i start on pedals, putting too much force, the rear wheels slide a bit to the left and it rubs.

The brakes after being set works decently, at least better than the mechanical BB5 i had in the past on another bike. Ok, not hydraulics i'm used to ofcourse, but i'll say the last word after some km and descent, maybe loaded.

Runs smooth and confy on gravel, 130km done at the moment and nothing exploded yet, better pictures soon, these are not very clear, sorry.

Hi there! I bought a nice kit on ebay, downtube stoppers with cables, bolts, a cable frame guide for the cables below the bottom braket (this frame had nothing brazed there) and some plastic guide/sleeves for the cables under the bar.

Never seen these "sleeves" used, not sure if i'm gonna use them.

I already own a Brooks Team Pro that will match the cables colour, i decided to go with Zipp CX handlebar tape, looks wonderful.

Saddle: Previous paid 90€ shipped
Kit: 13€ shipped
Tape: 17€ shipped

I decided to go with STI levers, found a new 4700 Tiagra groupset, here the specs:

STI 4703 triple
Rear derailleur medium cage 4700
Front derailleur triple 4703 (band on)
Cassette HG500 10V (11-34)
Chain Shimano Deore HG54 HG-X

Not sure how it will perform, i was tempted to build a 1x10/1x11, but well...

I'm not sure how this all together will perform, i'm not that expert with gear calculation, but as bad as it can go, i will change cassette/crankset?

Groupset: 251.50 shipped

• small update -
  
  

I'm now looking after the other parts, obviously have to decide what i wanted this bike to be, major choice between sti levers and bar end shifters, i wanted most the latter, they look more "touringish"... while thinking about, i found a decent priced -used- nitto B135AA rando handlebar! I feel like it's a good mix between tour, race look and comfort. After a good clean, turned out new!

It's 25.4mm clamp sized, i'm so forced to look for some stem on this size, found an unbranded one priced honestly, 60mm.

Seatpost was tricky, i wanted something new and with a size of 26.6mm i had not a good variety to pick from, found on Ebay something that was what i wanted, but when it arrived it was completely different (look at pics). Had to, as planned, cut it smaller from 350mm, and additionally remove the decals with solvent.

Handlebar: 38.50€ shipped
Seatpost: 15€
Stem: 14€ shipped

I'm really into aero stuff from 80s, i own a "weird" frame with oval tubing and full dura ace AX components, but i'm looking forward to acquire something listed, waiting for updates!

Woah, that's quite an audience! Thanks everyone for the compliments, hope to make it worth the read (and make it worth the ride for me ;D ).

Next thing in line is obviously the bottom bracket - chainset combo, i had swapped and disassembled loads of these parts, but i'm a rookie when it comes to build from scratch.

All i know is that i want a triple and a square taper!
Yes, i want that bike to climb nearly anything, loaded or not, and with the proper choice i can limit the weight gained... so, why not?

After evenings of catalogue browsing, i picked the Stronglight impact triple 24/34/46 165mm.
I usually use 170mm, but i tought even this little difference won't affect my pedal stroke and it will help a little with the bottom bracket height (decreased since the 650b). They recommended a bb axle of 115mm.

First thing i did was installing a shimano cartridge BB, the thread looks perfect but after some try, both sides threads perfectly smooth, i understood that this bottom bracket needs a face-work, damn it!
Well, not like it can't be done, but since all i wanted since start was to use an "old" bearings bottom bracket (the only exception i wanted, looking at new parts) i managed to get a shimano dura ace 7400 BB, even if it's a 113mm and the axle is not in a perfect shape.

Chainline is ok!

Price for the chainset: 77€ shipped
Price for the BB-7400: 36€ shipped

@PhilDAS thanks for the feedback, i'll stress them soon enough!

Next move, headset!

With a 1" fork with italian thread, with 38mm~ stack height needed, i decided to go with the stronglight a9 silver (aluminium - cartridge bearing), i want most of the gear to be "silver" and this choice looks like decent, classic, humanly priced and durable at the same time.

Headset: 36€ shipped

Thank you @togas ! I decided to go with Tektro R559, i wanted something new and with a decent stopping power, i've read some positive reviews about those brakes.

Not like i had a lot of choices tho, i was looking at Alhonga, Dia Compe and Action brakes with 70mm reach, but out of these, Tektro ones were the one. I'm just unsure how actually good is the stopping power, time will tell.

Price paid: 61.50€ shipped

Thanks @vp1337 !

Now, first part i needed were the wheels, i wanted the build to be modern and strong, i went for 36H and i found a couple of 36H tiagra hubs at decent price (RS400), after some search i found some BERNARDI mtb-rim-brake 27.5" rims at decent price, even if i wanted them to be silver at first...

...well, the velo-orange were out of my budget.

Now, the tyres!

We all know the struggle of picking the right tyre for this kind of build, had to deal with real width (i have a max of REAL 39mm there), so i needed to cut off some of the top choices for the width or the absurd price they have.

After some research i ended up picking the panaracer gravelking 27.5 x 1.5 (38x584) which have an exact 37.6mm of width, finally something that's exactly, or almost, what they are sold for; they are even reasonably priced and i like the para on the sidewall.

Yes, i will not end up with much room on the chainstays, but i wanted to fix this problem later if needed.

Hubs tiagra 10/11 RS400: 43€ shipped
rims: 56€ both
Tyres: Panaracer Gravel king 38x584: 74€ shipped (including two tubes)

Edit: added a small gif of the clearance

http://imgur.com/508tMd6

Hi there, i know it's not something uncommon, but i decided to share the project (now finished) i decided to build.

I'm a MTBer who loves to tour and also likes to restore old road bikes; i own several bikes, from 50s to 80s, and more than needed MTBs, but i miss some kind of hybrid and i decided to aim towards the "famous" 650b road.

Now, the frame:

I'm 1.75cm tall, i opted for a bigger frame not because it was perfect to me, but i fell in love at first sight, i then managed to convince myself the drop of height from the 650B and the geometry would suffice.

It's a biemmezeta (BMZ) sport frame, looks like one from the 80s, italian third party builder near Padova, that made frames for Milanetti, Girini, Mondial, and then Palo alto, has eyelets for mudguards and the carter, the space between rear stays looks decent, so this is it!

I know it's not an high quality frame, but this is the first brand of bike i restored in the past, so it's something i'm bound to, somehow...

The golden chrome and the green with the light of the sun, makes this frame as good looking as it is delicate, but who cares, i'm gonna make this a good ride.

Money spent for the frame shipped: 110€

-update soon-

@j808 hey, yes, i'm still in need to take a decision, got something to sell? thanks!

Hi there, i'm looking for a reasonable priced set of:

1. Rear derailleur (pref long/medium cage)
   
2. Front derailleur (pref 28.6mm)
   
3. STI / brakes + bar-ends, i guess i can pick anything good out of these options
   
   

9 or 10 speed triple, preferred silver coloured, all must be in good state and shipped to Italy, thank you!

@Heitzman i'm interested if still available, pm

@Migovic26 I have a pair of 600AX wheels on tubular speciale sport rims, let me know if interested.

Hi there @WimVDD looks like across early 90's (85/91), but that's just a guess, anyway here:

http://www.minodenti.it/home_magli.html

info@minodenti.it

@shaws i might have two pair of levers without hoods, let me know if you don't find a complete set.

Cheers

That's a beauty, i could be interested since i live very close to Denti (travagliato BS north italy).

Looks like a late 80s (88/89? maybe?), i'm sure they will help you out, as far as i know they are very supportive.

Let me know your price!

Also normandy luxe hubs with tubular rims are well wanted!
thanks

@GreatSince78 thank you, i'm waiting to know if i can get the gold rear mech, anyway would be nice to repair the one i have anyway. Let me know how much it will cost me to receive them in italy, thanks!