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Why not use an adapter?
PS: Also that cinelli stem is porn for me
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Please correct me if wrong, but can't find a thread about them in the forum, apart from this 7 years old.
I've been reading about them since I first got the chance to use a CX with Rotor Q Rings for two months years ago... But I'll finally try them in my last project
Yes, I know there is lots of articles and studies claiming that they let you deliver more power, and others that they really don't. Not here to start another holy-war / flame... just to talk about different models for those interested in trying them out.
As far as I know in the market you can find:
Here's a nice article comparing Osymetrics vs Doval vs QRings (in Spanish, but google translates it well from the guy that did #2 on this year Trans American Race equipped with Doval. He's going to re-sell them (they are only sold via ebay and shipping takes more than a month).
Since the Doval ones are now the cheapest, and the design seems quite interesting, I'll give them a try and report if anyone wants to know how they perform with the chaindrops (yes they are ugly like the others, not looking for a salon bike here, just to avoid strains and pains on endurance rides)
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Got the power2max black friday deal and purchased a Type S FSA Gossamer crank that will arrive in the next weeks with some 52/36 praxis works chainrings and rotor bolts (both for free), will post photos if someone is interested.
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I said they discontinued the production of those models, not reduced. Although ugliness is kind of subjective, performance is measurable, and those handlebars are much more ergonomic than many other alloy or carbon models, just try them if you can.
I'm old (and mature) enough to know that performance is always better than "visual perfection" and much more better than what other people think of it... Take for example my Duopower saddle, you'll struggle to find someone that says a nice thing about it.. but it really gets my ass over long and hard days sitting on it, and you can even read why the design has more logic than the "classic" saddle.
What I can accept is that the color combination I'm trying to build (blue frame, white parts, black for the rest) will be seen as extremely ugly by many of you, as much as I think carbon road bikes are ugly... but you'll never see me posting my opinion about carbon on your kid's bike thread.
So, thanks for the appreciation, but this is not a salon/cafe bike build, sorry for the disappointment.
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Thanks @TurtleRecall :). I think I'm going to use the GoPro mount for the front light, since usually my GoPro goes on the helmet for improving stability on bumpy descents
, and directioning for good shoots
Apart from the rear brake cable routing, the rest of the frame building seems pretty straight forward.. need to buy some tools for the fork crown race install and steerer tube cutting, and thats all :). The multiports will make the cable routing easy I think.
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Controltech Formidable, White, Alloy, 44cm, 67,24€ & 325gr
Falled in love with this handlebar in my past build, I can't understand why it was discountinued...
- A flat and wide enough top bar for my big hands resting while climbing
- Ergo bends in the drops that adapt well to my hands
- The bends in the corners of the top are great for an extra position for
long rides. - Cable guides under the top bar, great for a clean view
Full album here: http://imgur.com/a/hvnTP
PS: Thanks to @Vince for the acetone post , I'll try it next week (and will do apply to the seatpost and steam also).
- A flat and wide enough top bar for my big hands resting while climbing
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Kinesis Racelight 4S Disc 63cm Cyan Metallic Blue, Alloy, 819,57 € & 2,2kg
This was the most laborious decision after an extensive comparation. I was looking for:
Disc brakes: I'm a heavy rider (86-89kg) from the north of Spain (rainy all year long), and been waiting for disc brakes since my first 200km brevet raining all day.
Wider tyres: I've been all my roadie life on 23mm tires, last year finally tried a 25mm front... lets make it 28mm! (also tubeless, just to see how it works for me)
Endurance style: I'll ride brevets, attempt the Madrid-Gijón-Madrid (1200km like PBP) but also have rides just for fun and adventure.
Lightweight: Not weightweenies light, but still on a decent weight for a big rider like me, under 10kg would be ok, like my actual Kinesis Decade Convert2 custom
Also that offered a size big enough for me (1,92m tall), non-carbon (just don't like the material), no more than 1000€ and 2,5kg (including fork)
In the box you get a frame, fork and small box with parts:
The small parts box content:
Complaints
The Di2 exit holes came without plugs (I think they don't provide them)
The front brake hole paint is a little chipped :
More pics here: http://imgur.com/a/3W6tD
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Need a road bike with disc-brakes for randonneuring and fun, lets satisfy the new-build inner junkie!
I'll be updating this first with the component list as I choose and get them in consecutive replies.
CHASSIS- Frame: Kinesis Racelight 4S Disc Cyan Metallic Blue 63cm, 1750gr [detail post]
- Fork: Kinesis Tracer 1.5 DISC, 440gr [detail post]
- Seat Clamp: Kinesis (inc. with frameset) [detail post]
- Headset: FSA No.42/ACB (inc. with frameset) [detail post]
- Seatpost: Alloy & white [Waiting for bikefit]
- Stem: Alloy & white [Waiting for bikefit].
- Handlebar: Controltech Formidable White 44cm, 325gr [detail post]
GROUPSET
- Levers: Campagnolo Chorus Black 11v Ultra-Shift
- Front Derailleur: Campagnolo Athena 11v Black, with clamp on adapter & chain catcher
- Rear Derailleur: Campagnolo Athena 11v Black (short cage)
- Crankset: Power2Max FSA Gossamer, 175mm, 110BCD, White Decal. [detail post]
- Chainrings: Doval 52/36 16% grey color 110BCD, 180gr for the 3 pieces. [detail post]
- Chainring bolts: Rotor black (inc with Power2Max black friday offer). [detail post]
- Bottom Bracket: BSA68 FSA MEGAEXO BB-6000 BSA
- Brakes: TRP Spyre 160 with included Rotors
- Brake Pads: SwissStop Disc15 Sintered
- Chain: KMC X11-EL 11v Silver with KMC MissingLink 11 PRO Silver
- Cables:Jagwire Kit Extra Long Racer Brake/Gear White
CONTACTS & ACCESORIES
- Pedals: Look Keo 2 Max White
- Tape: Lizard Skins DSP 3.2mm Bar Tape
- Saddle: Duopower Aero
- Bottle Cages: Lezyne Flow SL side cages
- Pump: Lezyne road drive white medium
- Sensors: Garmin magnet-less speed sensor (hub)
WHEELS
- Wheels: Pro-Lite Revo A21W Iso [detail post]
- Cassette: Shimano Ultegra 11-28 11v
- Tyres: Continental GP 4000S II 28mm Reflex
Progress so far:
- Frame: Kinesis Racelight 4S Disc Cyan Metallic Blue 63cm, 1750gr [detail post]
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Just ordered a power2max FSA Gossamer yesterday with the black friday discount, with Praxis Works 52/36 chainrings (might finally use Doval rings) and rotor chainring bolts.
Just created current project thread :D
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@TurtleRecall Since Bruce Dalton has been ignoring my emails, tweets and instagram comments about the topic... I managed to find a twitter user with a recently build 4S Disc that gladly took some pics of the rear brake cable routing... exactly how we suspected :)
https://twitter.com/SadiqMir/status/670578181469007872
https://twitter.com/SadiqMir/status/670578612110811136
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Frame arrived monday, just took some photos, later it will have its own thread.
Kinesis Racelight 4S Disc 63cm, with Controltech Formidable handlebars.
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I think so, because the placement of the cable housing guides on the left chainstay forces to be that way:
And looking at the frame there is no other possible option than to exit the cable with its housing by one of those two holes. I think there is room enough but still will have to wait to try it... hope Bruce Dalton answers first!
The project thread will need some good light for the photos to be taken :(, I'll DM you when its created.
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Hello, just got a my 63cm blue frameset today and will create a "Current Project" thread later with pics.
For your question about the rear brake cable routing, as far as I understand, the cable enters the diagonal tube by a multiport, and exits at the bottom of it under the bottom bracket, and then follows the left chainstay underneath until near the brake mount... if words aren't enough take a look at the website pics:
About the mudguards, I don't know wich SKS model could work, still have to figure that out, but I can confirm that the fork legs has some eyelets in the inside :)
PD: I just emailed Bruce Dalton asking to clarify the rear brake cable routing if he can with pictures of his own 4S Disc.
Seems like in the pre-production model there was a exit multiport as you can see in this picture, but it was removed and the cable holders of the left chainstay where moved to the bottom
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If anyone can understand spanish (or at least a google translator version) this is a nice set of post from last year 2nd http://biziosona.com/tag/transam/ if you want to read it in English google translates it well
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Yeah, I'm looking here and it's 190mm:
genesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/road/frames/equilibrium-disc-framesetThat's still 2015 frameset! The 2016 is this one (website still not updated, like Kinesis...)
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192cm (6' 3") here and looking for about same thing, I've been searching for info about new road bikes with disc brakes and big sizes for a reasonable price and my candidates are:
1- Kinesis Racelight 4S Disc 63cm (aluminum) About 890€ (£650) and 2,1kg (4,6lbs) for the frameset. Some internal cable routing and Di2 ready
2- CONDOR Fratello Disc 64cm (Columbus Spirit) 1020€ (£750) and 2,5kg (5,5lbs) for the frameset. External cable routing.
3- Soma Saga Disc 62cm (CrMo) 560€ (£415) but 3kg (6,6lbs) for the frameset. External cable routing.
4- Basso Ulisse 60cm (CrMo) 1530€ (£1125) and 2,4kg (5,3lbs) for the frameset. External cable routing, third cage, 1" headset.Dom Mason told me by email that they don't offer a 62cm size now for their Definition Frameset (internal cable routing, aluminium, about 2,2kg and 1200€) but maybe if there where more people interested they will make a batch past christmas
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I don't know if this should be here, or in his own thread... http://www.everesting.cc/
Just repeating a climb again and again until your accumulated elevation gain hits 8,848 meters. The rules are quite specific
There's even a calculator https://everesting.io where you insert the strava segment of the chosen climb and some values and estimates how much time it should take.
Really considering giving it a try next summer after the 600km brevets here in Madrid