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TL;DR: unless you pay close attention to the difference in how tension and friction feels through the wrench for a long time and use your experience to try to correct for the inevitable variation in friction, your fancy torque wrench may as well be a cargo cult runway marker.
What an utter bunch of bollocks.
Stating that torque is an intrinsically inaccurate proxy for tension (due to the assumptions about friction that naturally have to be made) is just stating a well know, obvious fact.
Stating that torque as measured when "felt" and when the "roughness of the friction" is "paid close attention to" by "an experienced hand" "with decades of experience" whilst torqueing up a fastener by hand is somehow a more accurate proxy for tension than torque measured by using a calibrated torque wrench is just wild delusion.
If what you are saying is just that an experienced mechanic who manually does up dozens of fasteners a day, is able to more accurately measure torque than a cheap torque wrench of dubious origins and calibration, than that makes sense to me and seems like a reasonable opinion.
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They are indeed @Noodlelegs. DM me if interested.
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Steamroller, TRP rotors, BLB seapost, Charge Spoon gone.
Weinnman calipers, Shimano SPDs, Shimano canti brakes added.
Added photos of selle italia, restrap straps, shimano spds, sr stem, microshift shifters, velo orange and cinelli bars, andel cranks and miche chainring, dmr v8s, dmr deathgrips, xt derrailleur and clements strada. -
@lynx @mr_hedges @Oaks (it does come with the bolt, just need to make sure where it is) drop me DMs.
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Added link to photo album in original post.
@wlyall: there's some photos of them mounted on the Fyxation Quiver X in the album. Hope that helps. Won't be able to take any additional photos of it until the weekend as it's at my in-laws.
@jp & @pienol: couple of photos of them in the album. Steerer is on the sort side, but I'll measure when I get home. Bought of @D_Mars - he might know from the top of his head.
@Glws: they are 6 bolt. DM if interested.
@teew & mig: I'll get back to you shortly.
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Moving into a flat (no more shed), so a clear-out is in order.
Collection from N19 or thereabouts. Pictures to follow as and when family life allows.
Bike stuff
- Fyxation Quiver X frame size L/56 (happy to do a deal if bought as a frameset with the allroad's) - 250£
- Fyxation Sparta Allroad tapered forks - 175£
- Pro-Lite full-carbon canti forks (bought to go on the GT above but it never happened) -
40£25£ - Shimano XTR HB-M965 Front Hub Centre Lock Disc 32H -
50£45£ - Andel retro fluted cranks 144bcd 170mm (used but in pretty goo nick) -
40£35£30£ - Miche Primato Advance Chainring 144BCD 48t 1/8 - 15£
- Hope BB tool - 10£
- Aluminium Rat Trap Pedals 9/16” -
10£5£FREE - Pair of Shimano PD-M505 (pretty ratty, but still spinning) -
10£5£FREE - Hope PickN'Mix 8/J (IS42/IS52) headset silver -
50£40£ - Shimano RD-M8000-GS Deore XT medium cage derailleur -
55£50£40£ - Shimano Exage BR-AT50 canti brakes (front & back complete pair) -
10£5£ - 3 X Weinnmann 730 + 1 x Weinman 500 brake calipers - FREE (forum donation appreciated, but not required)
- TRP Spyre flatmount disc brakes -
75£65£50£ - TRP FF-5 flatmount 140/160mm adapters - 10£
- TRP RRL-SL brake levers gum/brown - 30£
- Cane Creek 200TT Bar End Brake Levers (pretty scuffed, but in working order) - 15£
- Pair of Shimano SLX SM-RT66 6-bolt 160mm rotors (used but plenty of life left) - 20£
- Selle Italia Flite Flow Black Saddle Manganese Rails 145mm (pretty much brand new, used for a week until I changer to a SLR) - 25£
- Gusset Stash bars 31.8mm 680mm wide -
15£10£ - Zipp Service Course 70 XPLR Gravel Handlebars 46cm (a bit of adhesive residue, otherise pretty much brand new) - 30£
- ETC Straight black handlebars (580 x 25.4 mm) - 5£
- Cinelli Top 64 Ergo bars. 44cm c-c - 10£
- DMR Brendog Death Grip Gul Yellow Thick - 5£
- On-One Gooseneck Stem 31.8mm 70mm -
15£10£ - BLB LITE CNC STEM 31.8mm 85mm silver - 25£
- SR 5355 quill stem -
5£FREE - Silver rear rack (believe it's an old Blackburn but not sure) - 10£
Audio/Electronics
- Braun CEV510 amp silver untested (sold as for parts) - 75£
- JBL L100 Century walnut veneer speakers (includes original walnut grille frames and sand-filled steel stands, but not the quadrex foam grille that has long ago perished; they have been recapped by the previous owner) -
750£700£500£ - Honeywell 5x HR80UK smart radiator TRVs - 200£
- Honeywell Evohome THR99C3100 smart Wi-Fi thermostat - 100£
- Arrarex vintage Caravel coffee machine (pretty rare; took me ages to find one in the UK; orange which is exactly the color that I wanted; unfortunately the missus does not approve of it) - 150£
Sold
- Surly Steamroller (TT 54, ST 52 ctc / 55 ctt; used and abused beater in pretty poor condition; its has been abandoned in my shed for a while; Sturmey Archer 3-speed coaster hub S-RC3 on A319 rims and Marathun Plus, Sturmey Archer chainset; non-descript alt-bars on a weird looking stem; dia-compe BRS front brake with kool stop salmons and dia-compe dirty harry brake lever); will create its own thread when and if I can be arsed - 200£
- Unidentified Italian BB shell vintage frame 54 ctc square (has a stuck seatpost and stem, comes with BB, and a battered Brooks B17 without tightening bolt) - FREE (forum donation appreciated but not required)
- Hope Fortus 23W Hope 4 wheelset 700c/29" - 300£275£
- Pair of Clement Strada 700x32c folding black (bough from here but
never used as a pair of GP5000 materialised in the meantime) -
25£20£
- Shimano Ultegra 6800 QR skewers - 20£15£10£
- DMR V8 pedals (pretty beaten but still in pretty good workign order, used them daily for more than 5 years, got some V12 now) - 15£5£
- Shimano PD-M540 (a bit of superficial rust, but otherwise in great pretty much unused condition; I've never quite warmed up to the SPD concept) - £3025£15£
- Hope headset top cap silver - 5£
- Hope 30mm bottom bracket silver - 50£40£
- Pair of TRP 6-bolt rotors 160mm (brand new) - 25£
- BLB GROOVE SILVER 27.2mm seatpost (pretty scuffed below insertion, good condition above it) - 20£
- Charge Spoon saddle brown (pretty much brand new; never ridden - doesn't agree with my bottom) - 15£
- Velo Orange Porteur Handlebar - 20£ 15£
- Crank Brothers M19 multi-tool gold with case - 20£
- Carhartt Aviation 34x30 - Black - £35
- Carhartt Aviation 32x32 - Grey - £35
- Carhartt Sid 34xXX - Light Green - £35
- PrAna Brion Slim Pant II 32x32 - Sepia - 35£
- Harris Tweed Samon Pinket Jacket/Blazer 40r / 102cm - 25£
- Harris Tweed Speckled Grey Jacket/Blazer 40r / 102cm - 25£
- Sage Smart coffee Grinder Pro (is missing the grinds container lid and bean hopper lid) - 65£60£50£
- Space saver vintage teak dining table with 4 neat stow under chairs (it looks pretty much exactly like the Hans Olsen "Roundette" for Frem Rølje, but the lack of makers marks forces me to assume this is a vintage replica) - 350£
- Vintage teak veneer media console with records rack, 1 door and 3 drawers - 100£
- massive extra large biface pebble shaped mirror (this one - 65£
- Pair of Panaracer Gravelking SK TLC 700cx38mm tanwall (used but plenty of life left) - 50£45£35£
- Hope RX spiderless crankset 172.5mm silver - 225£200£
- Hope 38t direct mount chainring - 35£
- Restrap Pedal Straps Horizontal - 15£
- microSHIFT BS-M11 bar end shifters (left is brand new unused, right in good used condition) - 50£
- Shimano CS-M7000-11 SLX 11spd cassette 11-46t - 40£
- Brooks C17 Saddle light brown (pretty discolored from the sun but barely used) - 50£40£
- NOS GT CX 700C alloy frame (new old stock from the original Taiwan GT factory; unused/unbuilt; bought for a project that never happened; sold to me as being 19” - whatever that means; TT is 55, ST is 43 ctc / 48 ctt) - 30£20£Photos here. Will progressively add more when I have the time. Ask for specific items if interested and I will try and prioritize.
- Fyxation Quiver X frame size L/56 (happy to do a deal if bought as a frameset with the allroad's) - 250£
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Another dibs on the caadx.