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Glad the drilling is being vetoed by the collective.

If going custom and in keeping with the Daccordi spangly 80s/90s frame vibe, can't you/they repurpose some overly elaborate beautiful Italian chrome clamps/guides from yesteryear to route the di-gubbins?

Yep :)

Asked around loads of places but nowhere had the tool, and then it turns out Brixton Cycles had one all along they found after a deep rummage.

Summer, finally, so out with the shiny bikes, summer wheels and new tyres. Not tried the black Shamals with the Bottecchia before but it's turned out pretty hot.

Mine was a regular size lighter honest guv.

But my sister collects stupidly sized objects and she has a few giant lighters...
...and she has some trademarked @hippy
tiny Borrower size drinks and smokes, perfect for bikepacking :)

And yes that's definitely a regular sized 400 gram tin of soup.

:)

...to the Moistmobile Rubbin'.

While that could be considered a minor drawback, this is I think offset by the fact it is also a cape, which is all kinds of awesome and qualifies me as an extra in the next Marvel movie. Now just got to think of a catchy name, as non absorbant man doesn't sound likely to cause fear amongst the local hoodlums.

...and I think the method is wear towel as cape like a super hero then when's it's dry try and pack it, but agreed I bet I never get it back to that pack size. But still impressively tiny and now have no excuse to avoid washing for days.

...and I prefer tins to pouches ;)

The lighter was just for scale and what i had to hand, proper campers always take a clipper :)

Truth, but we've definitely been mis sold it, if they'd advertised it as global wetting we've have not pursued it, global warming sounds cosy and nice.

I've just spent last 4 hours cycling round in pissing rain and am cold and it feels like November Ffs.

Oh an in relation your post above about towels taking up valuable food and beer space, not so.

The towel I got thanks to the link @TvH posted above arrived today, fair play to them that was quick.

This is the full size beach towel one, dunno what weak ass tiny stralian beers you drink but don't think you'll get many in the space this takes up :)

The lack of actual sun is really harshing my buzz this year, where the feck is it?!

Was going to do a test camp this weekend but that plan is now in the sea, along with this soon to be fully submerged island.

Your minging chem trail is probably still visible you slug ;)

Cheers for link, I like the look of them so just ordered the full size beach towel one, it can double as a sun lounger, he says being optimistic about nice weather again... but also works as a spare blanket for chilly evenings in case these new fangled camping quilt things that are all the rage turns out to be not so warm.

Thanks for the reminder, ordered, along with some midge lotion, come at me little fuckers!

Oh OK thanks, we heading towards Skye and Torridon so that's on the way, will try and check them out.

I expecting only a few mins dip before hyperthermia sets in.

Ok makes sense, I have visons of me swimming in lochs and bathing in waterfalls like on the adverts, but it might not be like that.

@T_Unit 's suggestion sounds the way ahead, thanks.

Yeah got some.dry bag for clothes.

What about towel sitsuation? my home ones are bloody huge and not appropriate, do they do smaller bikepackng ones that arent a.million quid or are people just washing their plums with microfiber clothes in streams and drying in the wind/freezing them off, weather depending?
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The wet wipes tip is good one, noted.

And I'll be fighting off the honeys with pointy stick when they see my pancake game;)

Glad you posted this as I too am off to Scotland for a week cycling at end of May, and was sat here this morning thinking 3-4 pairs of trousers/jeans for the evenings and same amount of jumpers is probs OK so I dont end up smelling like a long term park sleeper, but seems I'm way overpacking! Time for a rethink....

Tape looks like Fizik to me, not the new microtex stuff they do today, but the previous version, was called Fizik Dual bat tape I think.

Love the gios.

And for the above kinda want the rest.of the wall graff to be ....'go' :)

The chair actually packs up with the tent ok, and is of those things I always regret not bringing so it's defo coming.

As ever with camping you never quite know how much space you need until you start packing all the shit together, so we'll see, but thimk i ok. My upcoming trip has car campers coming along so I can always throw some bulky stuff in their car this time out, but will surely refine what I take over the coming months.

And cheers for rack suggestion, like the look of that, they on sale in Condor too so actually have a shop I can go and see if it actually fits frame, which seems pretty rare. There's nowhere in London I can see that does Revelate designs stuff for example so I can rock up and test stuff.

Thanks, they look pretty quick and easy to fit/remove too, and still might be able to thread tho my front bar cable mess.

Looks like similar for the back would work tho my monostay is way fatter than any handlebar adaptors they show, so may need a bodge to fit that at the back.

Would still prefer a rear rack that most of rack detaches with a clip, leaving only minimal clamp on frame. The less attachments I can break myself on in mtb stacks the better I think :)

Thanks a lot for this, I'll investigate those. Reckon that's frame and top tube bag and some band on bottle cage mounts sorted.

I'm used to riding all day with a 4-5kg ruksak so thought I might as well use the donkey rider as a beast of burden for some lugging, with the bladder and few things in backpack.

I'm only going to be exploring Wales, Scotland and Northern England, not crossing continents in a few days like you and @skinny so overheating isn't going to be a problem.

And ha I didn't mean mean a pointy loaf front rack for the aeroz, more that a pointy loaf would fit better in the gap between bar cables. Tho surely it is more aeroz even on a mtb. Has XavD and the Aerocoach crew not been 'dragged' into the backpacking realm yet for you country crushing riders?

I had thought rolls would be a problem up front as again the bulgy outty cables would be in the way, but yes as @cheekysnaker (thanks!) suggests the salsa or some other sort of bracket that pushes bracket out from bars 3-4 inches looks the way to go, so thanks for that, and i can srrap a drag bag/sleeping bag to that. Something like that might work on the rear monostay too.

And @skinny just thinking up to a week but more often 2-4 days. I like light but not slumming it in a ditch style, have decent tent, want at least 2 rings for cooking, thinking 2 of those firebox nanos as love the design and tiny pack size, probs ti for full tart light weight tart option. And just ordered a lofi cup cooker with powerbank fan to test for quick morning tea and variable heat and aa a 3rd ring option. (#gastrotwat) Have airmattress, chair , and down sleeping bag so got most of the camp kit.

I love good design so don't I'd paying for something genuinely great, but happy to bodge gaffer tape and ziptie if they the best solutioms.

That's given me more googling so thanks all.

After some help please with a steer towards some kit to convert my old 26er into a part time bikepacker. I'm a.seasomed camper but never by bike so a bit overwhelmed as i know virtually nothing of any bike related gear or termimology so bear with me, here goes....

See pics of current mtb set up, Ideally looking for kit that's quickly and easily removable so I can thrash around mtb single-track trails when not loaded.

Bike only has 1 bottle mount and I going to remove cage and fit frame bag there, something like a revelate ranger. Water is going in camelback in ruksack along with a few kg of stuff. As front dérailleurs are a thing of the past it seems, will these modern frame bags work OK and taper down enough at crank side to not interfere with FD and 3 rings? or is there a bags with little cuts I need to get?

Does anyone make something so i can fit a bottle or slim dry bag or two to the underside of the downtube? Thinking of some kind of flat bracket to use in the frame bottle bosses that I can still fit a full size.frame bag over, with straps/loops to a bracket umder the downtube i can attach stuff to? Any recommendations/alternatives for this space?

Onto the rear end, as I have a dropper I thinking of just getting a tiny.saddle bag for multi tool/ levers/tubes/patches.

Is there some kind of skinny rack I can fit using those mudguard bosses on the rear monostay? with maybe a support bracket on the seat tube beneath the seatpost collar?.
Obvs not thinking this can take much weight, but something like a sleeping bag. Other thought is maybe just try and fit a dry bag direct to the monostsy somehow, any.funky bracket I can get for that space that will avoid a bodge that risks things sliding into the rear wheel? Open to any other suggestions for packing at the rear end of this? Maybe another begind the stem bar bag can go here?

And finally onto the front. With hydro brakes and levers, FD and RD gear cables and dropper levers and cables it's already an utter shitshow up there. And I've got a Wahoo and a Gopro for time-lapsey still to be fitte to the bars, so the traditional un-aero loaf of bread style handlebar bag up against the bars is not going to work.

Is there some kind long skinny rack similar to what i wanted for the rear, that could positiom a loaf of bread size light luggage, in the aero position below and in front of the cabling shambles? I've got a spacer of a few cm under the stem so thinking maybe a bracket there and then maybe an extra support looped over the stem near the bars. Does anything like this exist? Any other suggestions for storage out front when there s a jutting outcrop of cables?

If I cant use a big bar bag or get a front rack, then maybe get something like bar mounted pouch/dry.bag to hang either side of the stem?

I also plan to get a largish behind the stem top tube bag, that magnetic flippy one looks good, forgotten the name of it. Is there any really long amd slim draught excluder type top tube bags that run full length of top tube?

Any pointers gratefully received, thanks.

I did wonder that. As they clearly seem to love Scotland I'd have thought by now they'd have evolved to fly a bit quicker than that and be granted more air/feasting time.

Or maybe they should just HTFU and stop being so control freaky about stability, direction and control, daddy long legs don't seem to give a fuck about that.

Was just trying to gather more data ahead of upcoming trip. So far it looks like I'll be praying for wind, dressed like the man from Del Monte, camping above 1500ft, and any time below that altitude has to be spent running or cycling away at a as yet underdetermined speed, but if those fuckers can only do 6mph I'm confident I can smoke them.

On reflection an English man dressed like the man from Del Monte may deter the midges from chasing, but might tempt a few locals into the hunt......dilemma.