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Ffs... I just saw the GPS thread that already exists so I guess ignore this one! :)

Hey folks.
I did a quick search for a specific thread on this but it only returned sales ads, so I apologise if I've missed any similar threads.

I'm interested to hear people's opinions/advice on what they consider to be the best current GPS units geared more towards actually guiding you in the direction you wanted to go.
Obviously if there are units that do this really well, but also have communication, spot tracking capabilities etc, then even better.
I'm not really bothered about price as I'm of the opinion that some things are worth spending money on. So any price range is fine.

I've been looking around online, but there are so many choices nowadays, and so many conflicting opinions, so I figured maybe some of you folks have actual experience with specific units.

Ideally I'd prefer a unit that can be charged via a USB connection from a dynamo, to avoid needing lots of spare batteries on multi day trips.

I'd prefer not to get "learn to read a map" type of comments as they're not really necessary or helpful, but I've been around long enough to know how this place works, so if that's the only advice you have, go for your life. :)

Any other help though would be much appreciated! :)
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Look for dimension polyant vx21...I think pro fabrics/point North also sell it. 1000d cordura is useful for reinforcing high wear areas.

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Tell you what, i'll include postage in the price. PM me an address and I'll get it in the post.

Nope, that goes on the rack!

I can do that. . . So long as I can bikepack it to you? :)

As Gil Scott-Heron once said. . . "Ain't no new thing" :)

Oh, and btw @hippy ... I'm selling my roland tb3 touch bassline if you're interested? Only £120 to you! :)

Are you asking because you've just bikepacked back from sainsburys with your shopping hanging from your handlebars? :)

I would say so.
Bikepacking is simply a more lightweight, stripped down form of off/road, touring. The rackless style of bags obviously makes more sense as there's less hardware to fail, so less weight too usually, and the idea is that the luggage is more out of the way than traditional panniers... But bikepacking setups can still use racks... Just usually in a different way.

I agree to a certain extent.
It does seem to be that bikepacking luggage is beginning to edge towards just new styles of racks rather than being the completely rackless format it started out as.
I guess it will all find its place in that those using the bags for quick trips will stick to completely hardwareless bags, and those travelling further afield, for longer may go with more stability as provided by minimal rack/attachment solutions.
At least the minimal bikepacking style of racks tend to only have one or two bolts to potentially fail, compared to the number of bolts used by traditional racks and panniers.

Hahaha. . . That's got to be the worst example you could have used! :)
When you place something on a rock, its still just a rock... But if as the all knowing Mr William Harkin claims. . . That over the centuries people learned to carve them for themselves. . . Then again, it just shows that whoever the first one of these carvers was to specifically carve something to specifically place their things on. . . Was the person who did indeed 'invent' the shelf! :)

At the end of the day, the carradice support is for a completely different type of saddlebag, is a completely different shape, and mounts in a completely different way to the porcelain rocket Mr Fusion support...
The Mack support is for exactly the same type of saddlebag, is exactly the same shape, and mounts in exactly the same way as the porcelain rocket Mr Fusion support... It really isn't (porcelain) rocket science! :)
Just give credit where it's due.

Anyway... Back to bikepacking business... i'm off my soapbox now! :)

Feel free to show me a carradice saddlebag support from over thirty years ago that works specifically with a modern bikepacking style saddlebag, clamps around the seatpost, and is lightweight.
I'm not claiming porcelain rocket invented the first ever support for any saddlebag.

I'm happy to eat humble pie if you can dig up the picture?

Yes the Mr Fusion support is a metal support for a saddlebag, it's not a cure for cancer... But the difference is that it was a unique product that didn't exist until he made it. There was no other support that was designed to work specifically, and integrate perfectly with a bikepacking saddlebag in the way that the porcelain rocket design did. Hence why it received so much positive feedback from those in the bikepacking community.
When it was created, there wasn't anyone else making anything that worked for this specific purpose and looked this way... However, for the years following its release, there has been.
So if someone now releases something that is basically exactly the same, then at least give porcelain rocket credit.
Maybe I just see things differently?

"it's not inconceivable that Mack came to this stage of the design without even having seen PR's efforts"

Thanks man... I needed that! :)

Well it was certainly novel in the field of bikepacking specific saddlebags, which is why when everyone else was still trying to figure out how to get their bags tight and stable, Scott was the one who was designing, prototyping, and testing a specific support, for the specific purpose of eliminating movement.
I didn't see anyone else doing it until porcelain rocket had reached version 3.

The carradice bagman support uses a clunky attachment, and was really just trying to make something that had many problems work a bit better, and still didn't stop the movement of the bag.
I'm just of the opinion that people deserve more credit for their ideas when other people use them.

Something that Scott at porcelain rocket already did years ago and which several other companies have also copied.
It always feels like a bit of a slap in the face to the person who actually HAS come up with something new and original when the people who then take those ideas for their own products post pictures without giving the slightest bit of credit to the person they clearly got the idea from.

My dibs was for both, but I've yet to have a reply to my PM.

Dibs.

At this rate people are gonna look like they're pedalling face down on a crucifix.

What the hell are you climbing that requires THAT amount of leverage. . . A ladder?

Here's a pic. . .

Nuts... Looks like his trans am bike isn't there. :(