The fall of the Tory party

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  • Has the postal vote issue been resolved in Badenochs constituency?

  • Suella Braverman, former home secretary, appears to be having a 'very public' nervous breakdown

    A five year public breakdown

  • If this was @me I'd expect people's politics to be informed by their lived experiences, not their ethnicity.

  • Badenoch might be smarter and an actual better choice for the Tories but I'm not convinced their supporters would vote for a black woman as prime minister.

  • She can’t resist culture war stuff either which is, arguably, the last thing a new Tory leader should engage in

    This strikes me as a good barometer of her longevity.

    I'm not saying she doesn't believe in any of it, but at the same time it's a great usp and way to gain initial recognition. Now she's known and those talking points seem to have run their course does she have the agility and acumen to pivot to a more successive one?

  • For about an hour on Friday morning he was the only Tory

    Whatever happened to the investigation into him? Was it brushed under the enormous carpet they seem to have at HQ?

  • Apparently half of the membership want to merge with Reform, which presumably means that they ultimately want Farage as their leader:

    As for a potential merger between the Conservatives and Reform, the membership is split down the middle, with 47% in favour and 48% against, with the remainder unsure.

    link to guardian live post

    Definitely speaks to them having further to fall, their membership will be the death of them.

  • their membership will be the death of them

    It really will.

    Surely they have to change their voting system?

    Also got to love their absolute lack of accountability in continually making disastrous decisions. Zero ability to recognise how shit their choices have been for their party and country.

  • Credit where credit is due

    Children’s daily sugar consumption halved just a year after tax, study finds
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/09/childrens-daily-sugar-consumption-halves-just-a-year-after-tax-study-finds

  • Well, Sunak tried that with tobacco and was lobbied senseless.

  • I don't see a positive direction. Move centre-ground and they have no credibility, will largely be ignored for 10 years. Move right and be out-righted by Farage.

  • Isn’t being in opposition meant to be the period during which you build credibility by sensibly and honestly holding the current administration to account?

    Bleating about bathrooms isn’t going to work here, I agree- but there’s scope for a centre-right come back if they can avoid the lunacy that is their membership.

  • Agree, it's a really tentative rebuild that's needed for them I imagine. Accept that power has now gone for two (?) at least cycles, and in the meantime put stuff (don't know what) in place that lets them concentrate on rebuilding in small steps towards the centre. Changing their leader election and muting the power of the membership might be a good start.

    However, that would mean that this bunch of fairly attention-seeky group of politicians would have to spend most of their career out of the limelight and doing arduous stuff that they don't like with no benefit to them, I can't see them committing to it. I can't even see them noticing that it has to be done.

  • From the same, Badenoch is well in the lead (double the nearest rivals) to be the next leader amongst party members. Until, that is, you add Johnson into the poll when he becomes favourite.
    Nutcases.

  • So, if she wins, Badenoch will know that shes second favourite to someone who isn't even eligible (Johnson), and in any case half of the membership would prefer another candidate (Farage).

    That's a pretty poor mandate that she'll be given. And without the rope to be able to hang herself with real consequences as Truss had, she'll be able to stay in the position for a long time I imagine.

  • If this was @me I'd expect people's politics to be informed by their lived experiences, not their ethnicity.

    That's what @t-v was saying.

  • The sugar just got replaced with artificial sugar.

  • The next leader is unlikely to be the one leading them to a general election though. There's probably a reasonable argument that if they go with a right wing headbanger then it will be someone more centre leading them into the next election.

  • Or oblivion.

  • It's going to be fun watching either way.

  • if they go with a right wing headbanger then it will be someone more centre leading them into the next election.

    On past performance, if they go with a headbanger the next one will be worse. For one thing, I'd be surprised if the party membership is about to increase and get younger; fewer, older and madder is much more likely.

  • fewer, older and madder

    Next election slogan right there.

    Or a tshirt...

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